Locking doors system

Hi everyone,

we are Ahoy, coworking space from Berlin - Charlottenburg.

We are planning to open a new coworking space and at the moment we are trying to find the best solution/system for locking doors of the offices and main entrance. We want to provide 24/7 entrance. Currently we are using keys, but this is a big mess:)

We are thinking about magnet cards for locking doors (the same most of hotels have) and also that would be possible to purchase with them at our bar.

Do anyone have any experiences what is the best system and maybe which company can provide us this kind of products, solutions?

Thank you

Cheers!

Tjaša Jarc

Ahoy! Berlin
Windscheidstr. 18
10627 Berlin
T*: *+49 173 7079148

http://www.ahoyberlin.com/

Ahoi Ahoy!

Have you heard about NoKi?
http://noki.io/de/?gclid=CODZq9SJ_cQCFQrJtAodKAoAHw

Best regards from Stuttgart
Harald

···

Am 15.04.15 um 15:36 schrieb Ahoy:

Hi everyone,

we are Ahoy, coworking space from Berlin - Charlottenburg.
We are planning to open a new coworking space and at the moment we are
trying to find the best solution/system for locking doors of the offices
and main entrance. We want to provide 24/7 entrance. Currently we are
using keys, but this is a big mess:)

We are thinking about magnet cards for locking doors (the same most of
hotels have) and also that would be possible to purchase with them at
our bar.
Do anyone have any experiences what is the best system and maybe which
company can provide us this kind of products, solutions?

Thank you
Cheers!
*
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Ahoy! Berlin
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/T//: //+49 173 7079148/

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We’re using Clay by Salto at The Skiff: https://my-clay.com/

It’s been almost a year since we had them installed. We did loads of research and it was the only system we could install given the way our door frames have been made - the locks work as replacements for standard Euro Locks and Yale Locks - I don’t think they work with US standard locks.

Clay take security extremely seriously which has had a negative knock on effect on the user experience - lots of different security codes involved in administration tasks. But it does the job and everyone’s agreed that it’s far better than how we used to operate with physical keys and leaving the door unlocked during busy periods.

The hardware is rock solid, tried and tested in Hotels and large institutions for years under the Salto brand. Clay is the software layer that’s relatively new and makes it easy administer through web and mobile apps.

Let me know if you have any more questions about them. I’ve been meaning to write up a full review for a while.

Jon

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On 17 April 2015 at 10:57, Harald Amelung [email protected] wrote:

Ahoi Ahoy!

Have you heard about NoKi?

http://noki.io/de/?gclid=CODZq9SJ_cQCFQrJtAodKAoAHw

Best regards from Stuttgart

Harald

Am 15.04.15 um 15:36 schrieb Ahoy:

Hi everyone,

we are Ahoy, coworking space from Berlin - Charlottenburg.

We are planning to open a new coworking space and at the moment we are

trying to find the best solution/system for locking doors of the offices

and main entrance. We want to provide 24/7 entrance. Currently we are

using keys, but this is a big mess:)

We are thinking about magnet cards for locking doors (the same most of

hotels have) and also that would be possible to purchase with them at

our bar.

Do anyone have any experiences what is the best system and maybe which

company can provide us this kind of products, solutions?

Thank you

Cheers!

Tjaša Jarc

Ahoy! Berlin

Windscheidstr. 18

10627 Berlin

/T//: //+49 173 7079148/

http://www.ahoyberlin.com/ <http://www.ahoyberlin.com/>

<https://www.facebook.com/ahoyberlin>

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So basically, we can’t use these in the U.S.?

JEROME CHANG

WEST: Santa Monica
1450 2nd Street (@Broadway) | ph: (310) 526-2255

CENTRAL: Mid-Wilshire
5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) | ph: (323) 330-9505

EAST: Downtown
529 S. Broadway, Suite 4000 (@Pershing Square) | ph: (213) 550-2235

NORTH: Pasadena (Opening 2015 Q4!)
600 E. Colorado (@Los Robles)



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On 17 April 2015 at 10:57, Harald Amelung [email protected] wrote:

Ahoi Ahoy!

Have you heard about NoKi?

http://noki.io/de/?gclid=CODZq9SJ_cQCFQrJtAodKAoAHw

Best regards from Stuttgart

Harald

Am 15.04.15 um 15:36 schrieb Ahoy:

Hi everyone,

we are Ahoy, coworking space from Berlin - Charlottenburg.

We are planning to open a new coworking space and at the moment we are

trying to find the best solution/system for locking doors of the offices

and main entrance. We want to provide 24/7 entrance. Currently we are

using keys, but this is a big mess:)

We are thinking about magnet cards for locking doors (the same most of

hotels have) and also that would be possible to purchase with them at

our bar.

Do anyone have any experiences what is the best system and maybe which

company can provide us this kind of products, solutions?

Thank you

Cheers!

Tjaša Jarc

Ahoy! Berlin

Windscheidstr. 18

10627 Berlin

/T//: //+49 173 7079148/

http://www.ahoyberlin.com/ <http://www.ahoyberlin.com/>

<https://www.facebook.com/ahoyberlin>

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Jerome,

I don’t think you can. But Salto do have lock hardware for their large scale installations so it might not be that long until they are available.

While I’ve not used any of the US centric systems you do seem to have more choice and the software seems more mature. I’d be surprised if one of them wasn’t better option for you than Clay.

Jon

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On 18 April 2015 at 21:00, Jerome Chang [email protected] wrote:

So basically, we can’t use these in the U.S.?
JEROME CHANG

WEST: Santa Monica
1450 2nd Street (@Broadway) | ph: (310) 526-2255

CENTRAL: Mid-Wilshire
5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) | ph: (323) 330-9505

EAST: Downtown
529 S. Broadway, Suite 4000 (@Pershing Square) | ph: (213) 550-2235

NORTH: Pasadena (Opening 2015 Q4!)
600 E. Colorado (@Los Robles)




On Apr 17, 2015, at 3:27 AM, Jonathan Markwell [email protected] wrote:

We’re using Clay by Salto at The Skiff: https://my-clay.com/

It’s been almost a year since we had them installed. We did loads of research and it was the only system we could install given the way our door frames have been made - the locks work as replacements for standard Euro Locks and Yale Locks - I don’t think they work with US standard locks.

Clay take security extremely seriously which has had a negative knock on effect on the user experience - lots of different security codes involved in administration tasks. But it does the job and everyone’s agreed that it’s far better than how we used to operate with physical keys and leaving the door unlocked during busy periods.

The hardware is rock solid, tried and tested in Hotels and large institutions for years under the Salto brand. Clay is the software layer that’s relatively new and makes it easy administer through web and mobile apps.

Let me know if you have any more questions about them. I’ve been meaning to write up a full review for a while.

Jon

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On 17 April 2015 at 10:57, Harald Amelung [email protected] wrote:

Ahoi Ahoy!

Have you heard about NoKi?

http://noki.io/de/?gclid=CODZq9SJ_cQCFQrJtAodKAoAHw

Best regards from Stuttgart

Harald

Am 15.04.15 um 15:36 schrieb Ahoy:

Hi everyone,

we are Ahoy, coworking space from Berlin - Charlottenburg.

We are planning to open a new coworking space and at the moment we are

trying to find the best solution/system for locking doors of the offices

and main entrance. We want to provide 24/7 entrance. Currently we are

using keys, but this is a big mess:)

We are thinking about magnet cards for locking doors (the same most of

hotels have) and also that would be possible to purchase with them at

our bar.

Do anyone have any experiences what is the best system and maybe which

company can provide us this kind of products, solutions?

Thank you

Cheers!

Tjaša Jarc

Ahoy! Berlin

Windscheidstr. 18

10627 Berlin

/T//: //+49 173 7079148/

http://www.ahoyberlin.com/ <http://www.ahoyberlin.com/>

<https://www.facebook.com/ahoyberlin>

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Thank you Jonathan and Harald,

we checked out and both seems really functional solutions.

Do you have these systems on all doors or just on the main entrance?

Tjaša Jarc

Ahoy! Berlin
Windscheidstr. 18
10627 Berlin
T*: *+49 173 7079148

http://www.ahoyberlin.com/

···

On 17 April 2015 at 10:57, Harald Amelung [email protected] wrote:

Ahoi Ahoy!

Have you heard about NoKi?

http://noki.io/de/?gclid=CODZq9SJ_cQCFQrJtAodKAoAHw

Best regards from Stuttgart

Harald

Am 15.04.15 um 15:36 schrieb Ahoy:

Hi everyone,

we are Ahoy, coworking space from Berlin - Charlottenburg.

We are planning to open a new coworking space and at the moment we are

trying to find the best solution/system for locking doors of the offices

and main entrance. We want to provide 24/7 entrance. Currently we are

using keys, but this is a big mess:)

We are thinking about magnet cards for locking doors (the same most of

hotels have) and also that would be possible to purchase with them at

our bar.

Do anyone have any experiences what is the best system and maybe which

company can provide us this kind of products, solutions?

Thank you

Cheers!

Tjaša Jarc

Ahoy! Berlin

Windscheidstr. 18

10627 Berlin

/T//: //+49 173 7079148/

http://www.ahoyberlin.com/ <http://www.ahoyberlin.com/>

<https://www.facebook.com/ahoyberlin>

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Happy to help Tjaša!

We started with them on our two main entrances. We’ve since added locks to:

  • the door to our internal shared storage room to keep kit a little safer.

  • the gate to our external bicycle storage area.

It’s so much easier now. Most members only need a single keyfob (or now an app on their phone) and we don’t have to keep track of so many different keys. It also allows us to keep a stock of inactive keys on site and activate them for new members and people who loose them when we’re away from the space.

We still use conventional keys to deadlock the main entrances at night but it probably won’t be long before we replace them too.

There are two big negatives that Clay currently has that you should be aware of:

  1. It is dependent on cell phone network connectivity to work. It can connect to most networks but if the one it is connected to goes down users who don’t have a designated Master Key cannot use the locks. I’d be much happier if it used our internet connection with the cell phone network for backup.

  2. There are a limited number users that can be set as Master Key users - about 20. Master Keys have higher security privileges. They can unlock a lock without network access so locks respond faster as well as being usable when the network is down. The downside of this is that you can’t immediately guarantee that their access has been revoked when one goes missing. We trust our members and we’d be happy for them all to have Master Keys. They’re still more secure than traditional keys.

I have heard that they’ll soon be doubling the number of Master Keys for an account which will be a big help. Sadly it’s unlikely that they’ll be supporting use of our own Internet connection anytime soon as they’d need to replace some of the hardware.

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On 22 April 2015 at 16:58, Ahoy [email protected] wrote:

Thank you Jonathan and Harald,

we checked out and both seems really functional solutions.

Do you have these systems on all doors or just on the main entrance?

Tjaša Jarc

Ahoy! Berlin
Windscheidstr. 18
10627 Berlin
T*: *+49 173 7079148

http://www.ahoyberlin.com/

On 17 Apr 2015, at 12:27, Jonathan Markwell [email protected] wrote:

We’re using Clay by Salto at The Skiff: https://my-clay.com/

It’s been almost a year since we had them installed. We did loads of research and it was the only system we could install given the way our door frames have been made - the locks work as replacements for standard Euro Locks and Yale Locks - I don’t think they work with US standard locks.

Clay take security extremely seriously which has had a negative knock on effect on the user experience - lots of different security codes involved in administration tasks. But it does the job and everyone’s agreed that it’s far better than how we used to operate with physical keys and leaving the door unlocked during busy periods.

The hardware is rock solid, tried and tested in Hotels and large institutions for years under the Salto brand. Clay is the software layer that’s relatively new and makes it easy administer through web and mobile apps.

Let me know if you have any more questions about them. I’ve been meaning to write up a full review for a while.

Jon

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On 17 April 2015 at 10:57, Harald Amelung [email protected] wrote:

Ahoi Ahoy!

Have you heard about NoKi?

http://noki.io/de/?gclid=CODZq9SJ_cQCFQrJtAodKAoAHw

Best regards from Stuttgart

Harald

Am 15.04.15 um 15:36 schrieb Ahoy:

Hi everyone,

we are Ahoy, coworking space from Berlin - Charlottenburg.

We are planning to open a new coworking space and at the moment we are

trying to find the best solution/system for locking doors of the offices

and main entrance. We want to provide 24/7 entrance. Currently we are

using keys, but this is a big mess:)

We are thinking about magnet cards for locking doors (the same most of

hotels have) and also that would be possible to purchase with them at

our bar.

Do anyone have any experiences what is the best system and maybe which

company can provide us this kind of products, solutions?

Thank you

Cheers!

Tjaša Jarc

Ahoy! Berlin

Windscheidstr. 18

10627 Berlin

/T//: //+49 173 7079148/

http://www.ahoyberlin.com/ <http://www.ahoyberlin.com/>

<https://www.facebook.com/ahoyberlin>

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Keep your eyes peeled for Lockstate’s new RL6000. After 4 times researching commercial grade locks that don’t cost a fortune, this is the front-runner. They are adding a web based code generator and an API to integrate it with membership management software. It’s supposed to be released ~June.
http://newremotelock.lockstate.com/products/remotelockacs/

Angel

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On Wednesday, April 15, 2015 at 7:36:58 AM UTC-6, Ahoy! Berlin wrote:

Hi everyone,

we are Ahoy, coworking space from Berlin - Charlottenburg.

We are planning to open a new coworking space and at the moment we are trying to find the best solution/system for locking doors of the offices and main entrance. We want to provide 24/7 entrance. Currently we are using keys, but this is a big mess:)

We are thinking about magnet cards for locking doors (the same most of hotels have) and also that would be possible to purchase with them at our bar.

Do anyone have any experiences what is the best system and maybe which company can provide us this kind of products, solutions?

Thank you

Cheers!

Tjaša Jarc

Ahoy! Berlin
Windscheidstr. 18
10627 Berlin
T*: *+49 173 7079148

I use the current Lockstate RL 6000 that Angel mentioned. I love it for it’s affordability, simplicity, and workhorse mentality. This thing does not have many bells and whistle but just inputting up to 200 codes and permanently locking and unlocking when I’m there. I just give every member a code so if I’m not there (like how I’m going to be at GCUC) they have access. When I am there it’s a simple push the button and it unlocks. Super simple, super easy, affordable.

After researching Lockstate’s new line of deadbolts I think I like the $250 DB500. It has plenty of online control with temporary codes (times of day to number of days), up to 250, and permanent codes and has a recurring fee of $0.99 per month. It’s affordable and has a well-known company behind it. It doesn’t try to get too fancy which has plagued some of the startups that have gone after this market.

They are a Denver based company so I just shot them an email to visit their store and have a sit down. If things go well I might be grabbing a up to three.

Can you link to this, Craig? The DB500 I’m finding doesn’t have an online control panel of any kind.

-Alex

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On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 3:30 PM, Craig Baute - Creative Density Coworking [email protected] wrote:

After researching Lockstate’s new line of deadbolts I think I like the $250 DB500. It has plenty of online control with temporary codes (times of day to number of days), up to 250, and permanent codes and has a recurring fee of $0.99 per month. It’s affordable and has a well-known company behind it. It doesn’t try to get too fancy which has plagued some of the startups that have gone after this market.

They are a Denver based company so I just shot them an email to visit their store and have a sit down. If things go well I might be grabbing a up to three.

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I’m pretty sure he’s talking about the Remote Lock line they have.

https://remotelock.com/products/smartlocks/

They sell them at Home Depot.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/LockState-RemoteLock-WiFi-Satin-Nickel-Electronic-Lever-Door-Lock-L500i-SN/204502395

I’m looking at using these for the new Creative Blueprint Seattle location. At Office Nomads we use an ISONAS system but due to cost and the complication of integrating our systems I’m looking at using one of these to replace the door knob. This way we can have two separate systems that don’t interfere with each other. We need to use the remote service so Ashley can manage her space even when she’s back in Toronto.

Jacob

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On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Alex Hillman [email protected] wrote:

Can you link to this, Craig? The DB500 I’m finding doesn’t have an online control panel of any kind.

-Alex

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On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 3:30 PM, Craig Baute - Creative Density Coworking [email protected] wrote:

After researching Lockstate’s new line of deadbolts I think I like the $250 DB500. It has plenty of online control with temporary codes (times of day to number of days), up to 250, and permanent codes and has a recurring fee of $0.99 per month. It’s affordable and has a well-known company behind it. It doesn’t try to get too fancy which has plagued some of the startups that have gone after this market.

They are a Denver based company so I just shot them an email to visit their store and have a sit down. If things go well I might be grabbing a up to three.

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You got it Jacob and thanks for adding the link. It looks like a good system.

Hi Folks, Jon, Craig,

For both the Clay device and the Remote Lock: they look great, but…

Am I misunderstanding something or does this mean that if the wifi link between door and internet goes down for some reason, members can’t get into the space? We’ve had so much trouble just keeping our printers on the (functioning wifi), I’d hate for access to the building to depend on that connection always working. Or is my concern unjustified for some reason?

Will

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On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 11:30:43 PM UTC+2, Craig Baute - Creative Density Coworking wrote:

You got it Jacob and thanks for adding the link. It looks like a good system.

Will, can you connect the printers via cable but shared on the network?

Jerome

www.BLANKSPACES.com

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On Apr 29, 2015, at 1:44 AM, Will Bennis, Locus Workspace [email protected] wrote:

Hi Folks, Jon, Craig,

For both the Clay device and the Remote Lock: they look great, but…

Am I misunderstanding something or does this mean that if the wifi link between door and internet goes down for some reason, members can’t get into the space? We’ve had so much trouble just keeping our printers on the (functioning wifi), I’d hate for access to the building to depend on that connection always working. Or is my concern unjustified for some reason?

Will

On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 11:30:43 PM UTC+2, Craig Baute - Creative Density Coworking wrote:

You got it Jacob and thanks for adding the link. It looks like a good system.

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Will, it’s my concern as well and I’ll need to play with one before I know for sure. I also want to bypass their servers so the doors don’t rely on a third party. I’ll report back as soon as Ive got my hands on some hardware.

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On Wednesday, April 29, 2015, Will Bennis, Locus Workspace [email protected] wrote:

Hi Folks, Jon, Craig,

For both the Clay device and the Remote Lock: they look great, but…

Am I misunderstanding something or does this mean that if the wifi link between door and internet goes down for some reason, members can’t get into the space? We’ve had so much trouble just keeping our printers on the (functioning wifi), I’d hate for access to the building to depend on that connection always working. Or is my concern unjustified for some reason?

Will

On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 11:30:43 PM UTC+2, Craig Baute - Creative Density Coworking wrote:

You got it Jacob and thanks for adding the link. It looks like a good system.

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Clay doesn’t use our Internet connection/WiFi. It comes with a unit that communicates via the cell/mobile phone network. I’d be happiest if it used both, so we had some redundancy. We have had problems when the cell network goes down and/or is busy. Master Key users (limited to 20 people but soon increasing to 40) can still get in if it’s offline for any reason.

Like Jacob, I wish we could gain complete control over the locks by bypassing their servers. Clay have used heavy encryption at multiple levels making that near impossible to do.

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On 29 April 2015 at 15:27, Jacob Sayles [email protected] wrote:

Will, it’s my concern as well and I’ll need to play with one before I know for sure. I also want to bypass their servers so the doors don’t rely on a third party. I’ll report back as soon as Ive got my hands on some hardware.

On Wednesday, April 29, 2015, Will Bennis, Locus Workspace [email protected] wrote:

Hi Folks, Jon, Craig,

For both the Clay device and the Remote Lock: they look great, but…

Am I misunderstanding something or does this mean that if the wifi link between door and internet goes down for some reason, members can’t get into the space? We’ve had so much trouble just keeping our printers on the (functioning wifi), I’d hate for access to the building to depend on that connection always working. Or is my concern unjustified for some reason?

Will

On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 11:30:43 PM UTC+2, Craig Baute - Creative Density Coworking wrote:

You got it Jacob and thanks for adding the link. It looks like a good system.

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I haven’t found a system that does not rely on third-party servers. You can’t really be a consumer level device and have all the remote programming capabilities without having a server somewhere so I understand why this is. They also usually have some form of monetization strategy that benefits from being tied to the company.

All that said, I’m looking to find or develop a solution that gets around this. The system I built for the hotel in SF is a first step, but there is still a lot of work to be done before it’s the solution I’m looking for. For Ashley’s art studios here in Seattle, I’m opting for inexpensive, off-the-shelf hardware and I’ll see if I can work some magic behind the curtain. Here is to hoping the Lockstate Remote Locks do the trick!

If anyone wants to help with all this hacking, I’d love to work together. Also, if anyone has some hardware they want to donate to the cause I’m happy to tinker with it to see if we can come up with a solution that works for all of us.

Jacob

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On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 8:17 AM, Jonathan Markwell [email protected] wrote:

Clay doesn’t use our Internet connection/WiFi. It comes with a unit that communicates via the cell/mobile phone network. I’d be happiest if it used both, so we had some redundancy. We have had problems when the cell network goes down and/or is busy. Master Key users (limited to 20 people but soon increasing to 40) can still get in if it’s offline for any reason.

Like Jacob, I wish we could gain complete control over the locks by bypassing their servers. Clay have used heavy encryption at multiple levels making that near impossible to do.


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On 29 April 2015 at 15:27, Jacob Sayles [email protected] wrote:

Will, it’s my concern as well and I’ll need to play with one before I know for sure. I also want to bypass their servers so the doors don’t rely on a third party. I’ll report back as soon as Ive got my hands on some hardware.

On Wednesday, April 29, 2015, Will Bennis, Locus Workspace [email protected] wrote:

Hi Folks, Jon, Craig,

For both the Clay device and the Remote Lock: they look great, but…

Am I misunderstanding something or does this mean that if the wifi link between door and internet goes down for some reason, members can’t get into the space? We’ve had so much trouble just keeping our printers on the (functioning wifi), I’d hate for access to the building to depend on that connection always working. Or is my concern unjustified for some reason?

Will

On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 11:30:43 PM UTC+2, Craig Baute - Creative Density Coworking wrote:

You got it Jacob and thanks for adding the link. It looks like a good system.

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Does anyone have experience with a lock system for storefront style doors? Most of these wifi-locks seem to only work on a basic wooden door.

-bryan

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On Wednesday, April 15, 2015 at 9:36:58 AM UTC-4, Ahoy! Berlin wrote:

Hi everyone,

we are Ahoy, coworking space from Berlin - Charlottenburg.

We are planning to open a new coworking space and at the moment we are trying to find the best solution/system for locking doors of the offices and main entrance. We want to provide 24/7 entrance. Currently we are using keys, but this is a big mess:)

We are thinking about magnet cards for locking doors (the same most of hotels have) and also that would be possible to purchase with them at our bar.

Do anyone have any experiences what is the best system and maybe which company can provide us this kind of products, solutions?

Thank you

Cheers!

Tjaša Jarc

Ahoy! Berlin
Windscheidstr. 18
10627 Berlin
T*: *+49 173 7079148

Yeah most of these systems are far less expensive and are residential not commercial level hardware. For commercial doors you need an electric strike in the door frame and it should be installed by a professional locksmith. We have a commercial system at Office Nomads using ISONAS readers but it was $5K and many people find that too expensive. The system I built at The Red Victorian Hotel also uses an electric strike and I’m hopeful it could be a suitable replacement, but I need more time/money to develop it in to something solid.

What other commercial systems are in use here? Anything I should have my eye on? Anything that is less then $1K/door?

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On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 9:17 AM, Bryan Boyer [email protected] wrote:

Does anyone have experience with a lock system for storefront style doors? Most of these wifi-locks seem to only work on a basic wooden door.
-bryan

On Wednesday, April 15, 2015 at 9:36:58 AM UTC-4, Ahoy! Berlin wrote:

Hi everyone,

we are Ahoy, coworking space from Berlin - Charlottenburg.

We are planning to open a new coworking space and at the moment we are trying to find the best solution/system for locking doors of the offices and main entrance. We want to provide 24/7 entrance. Currently we are using keys, but this is a big mess:)

We are thinking about magnet cards for locking doors (the same most of hotels have) and also that would be possible to purchase with them at our bar.

Do anyone have any experiences what is the best system and maybe which company can provide us this kind of products, solutions?

Thank you

Cheers!

Tjaša Jarc

Ahoy! Berlin
Windscheidstr. 18
10627 Berlin
T*: *+49 173 7079148

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