Getting rid of the "co-working" hyphen

Hi everyone,

For a while now we've been annoyed about the resurgence in the use of
the hyphenated version of the word coworking. As you all know, most
major media outlets these days write it as co-working.
Deskmag recently published an article explaining why this is
happening: it's because the AP Stylebook has decided that co-working
is the correct form.
However, we'd like to ask for your assistance in helping AP change
their minds! We've put out a call for people to bombard AP with the
following tweet:

@APStylebook #Coworking is not Co-working. It’s an independent
movement that doesn’t want to be separated by a hyphen!

For a backgrounder on why we think the word should be without a
hyphen, have a read of the article: http://www.deskmag.com/en/coworking-or-co-working-with-hyphen-252

What do you all think? I know this is an old issue, but it's important
to get the name right, right?

Sophie
Deskmag/Deskwanted

Do we know what procedure AP uses to add words to their stylebook? I would want to know that first.

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On Sep 1, 2011 5:29 AM, "[email protected]" [email protected] wrote:

Hi everyone,

For a while now we’ve been annoyed about the resurgence in the use of
the hyphenated version of the word coworking. As you all know, most
major media outlets these days write it as co-working.

Deskmag recently published an article explaining why this is
happening: it’s because the AP Stylebook has decided that co-working
is the correct form.
However, we’d like to ask for your assistance in helping AP change

their minds! We’ve put out a call for people to bombard AP with the
following tweet:

@APStylebook #Coworking is not Co-working. It’s an independent
movement that doesn’t want to be separated by a hyphen!

For a backgrounder on why we think the word should be without a
hyphen, have a read of the article: http://www.deskmag.com/en/coworking-or-co-working-with-hyphen-252

What do you all think? I know this is an old issue, but it’s important
to get the name right, right?

Sophie
Deskmag/Deskwanted


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This is great! Thanks for leading the charge on this. It’s not an old issue, it’s an ongoing issue. First step is to get “coworking” into common use. Second step is to make our argument. It looks like for $20 you can subscribe to AP Stylebook Online and then you have access to Ask The Editor. Not sure if this would be any more effective then the twitter flood already proposed.

Jacob

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On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 2:29 AM, [email protected] [email protected] wrote:

Hi everyone,

For a while now we’ve been annoyed about the resurgence in the use of

the hyphenated version of the word coworking. As you all know, most

major media outlets these days write it as co-working.

Deskmag recently published an article explaining why this is

happening: it’s because the AP Stylebook has decided that co-working

is the correct form.

However, we’d like to ask for your assistance in helping AP change

their minds! We’ve put out a call for people to bombard AP with the

following tweet:

@APStylebook #Coworking is not Co-working. It’s an independent

movement that doesn’t want to be separated by a hyphen!

For a backgrounder on why we think the word should be without a

hyphen, have a read of the article: http://www.deskmag.com/en/coworking-or-co-working-with-hyphen-252

What do you all think? I know this is an old issue, but it’s important

to get the name right, right?

Sophie

Deskmag/Deskwanted

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As an old-salt print journo, I say if email isn’t e-mail, coworking shouldn’t be co-working.

Free those what, 8-bits for the hyphen character, back into the ether.

Cheers!

Pat

···

On Sep 1, 2011, at 10:14 AM, Jacob Sayles wrote:

This is great! Thanks for leading the charge on this. It’s not an old issue, it’s an ongoing issue. First step is to get “coworking” into common use. Second step is to make our argument. It looks like for $20 you can subscribe to AP Stylebook Online and then you have access to Ask The Editor. Not sure if this would be any more effective then the twitter flood already proposed.

Jacob


Office Nomads - Individuality without Isolation
http://www.officenomads.com - (206) 323-6500

On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 2:29 AM, [email protected] [email protected] wrote:

Hi everyone,

For a while now we’ve been annoyed about the resurgence in the use of

the hyphenated version of the word coworking. As you all know, most

major media outlets these days write it as co-working.

Deskmag recently published an article explaining why this is

happening: it’s because the AP Stylebook has decided that co-working

is the correct form.

However, we’d like to ask for your assistance in helping AP change

their minds! We’ve put out a call for people to bombard AP with the

following tweet:

@APStylebook #Coworking is not Co-working. It’s an independent

movement that doesn’t want to be separated by a hyphen!

For a backgrounder on why we think the word should be without a

hyphen, have a read of the article: http://www.deskmag.com/en/coworking-or-co-working-with-hyphen-252

What do you all think? I know this is an old issue, but it’s important

to get the name right, right?

Sophie

Deskmag/Deskwanted

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Threads like this one make my day happy.

/ah
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coworking in philadelphia

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On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Pat Ramsey [email protected] wrote:

As an old-salt print journo, I say if email isn’t e-mail, coworking shouldn’t be co-working.

Free those what, 8-bits for the hyphen character, back into the ether.

Cheers!

Pat

On Sep 1, 2011, at 10:14 AM, Jacob Sayles wrote:

This is great! Thanks for leading the charge on this. It’s not an old issue, it’s an ongoing issue. First step is to get “coworking” into common use. Second step is to make our argument. It looks like for $20 you can subscribe to AP Stylebook Online and then you have access to Ask The Editor. Not sure if this would be any more effective then the twitter flood already proposed.

Jacob


Office Nomads - Individuality without Isolation
http://www.officenomads.com - (206) 323-6500

On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 2:29 AM, [email protected] [email protected] wrote:

Hi everyone,

For a while now we’ve been annoyed about the resurgence in the use of

the hyphenated version of the word coworking. As you all know, most

major media outlets these days write it as co-working.

Deskmag recently published an article explaining why this is

happening: it’s because the AP Stylebook has decided that co-working

is the correct form.

However, we’d like to ask for your assistance in helping AP change

their minds! We’ve put out a call for people to bombard AP with the

following tweet:

@APStylebook #Coworking is not Co-working. It’s an independent

movement that doesn’t want to be separated by a hyphen!

For a backgrounder on why we think the word should be without a

hyphen, have a read of the article: http://www.deskmag.com/en/coworking-or-co-working-with-hyphen-252

What do you all think? I know this is an old issue, but it’s important

to get the name right, right?

Sophie

Deskmag/Deskwanted

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One of my interns is at UT for PR. She is working all her AP resources…. I’ll let you know what she find.

Liz Elam

Curator of Link Coworking

www.linkcoworking.com

512-632-4591

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Alex Hillman
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 12:25 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Coworking] Getting rid of the “co-working” hyphen

Threads like this one make my day happy.

/ah
indyhall.org
coworking in philadelphia

On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Pat Ramsey [email protected] wrote:

As an old-salt print journo, I say if email isn’t e-mail, coworking shouldn’t be co-working.

Free those what, 8-bits for the hyphen character, back into the ether.

Cheers!

Pat

On Sep 1, 2011, at 10:14 AM, Jacob Sayles wrote:

This is great! Thanks for leading the charge on this. It’s not an old issue, it’s an ongoing issue. First step is to get “coworking” into common use. Second step is to make our argument. It looks like for $20 you can subscribe to AP Stylebook Online and then you have access to Ask The Editor. Not sure if this would be any more effective then the twitter flood already proposed.

Jacob


Office Nomads - Individuality without Isolation
http://www.officenomads.com - (206) 323-6500

On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 2:29 AM, [email protected] [email protected] wrote:

Hi everyone,

For a while now we’ve been annoyed about the resurgence in the use of
the hyphenated version of the word coworking. As you all know, most
major media outlets these days write it as co-working.
Deskmag recently published an article explaining why this is
happening: it’s because the AP Stylebook has decided that co-working
is the correct form.
However, we’d like to ask for your assistance in helping AP change
their minds! We’ve put out a call for people to bombard AP with the
following tweet:

@APStylebook #Coworking is not Co-working. It’s an independent
movement that doesn’t want to be separated by a hyphen!

For a backgrounder on why we think the word should be without a
hyphen, have a read of the article: http://www.deskmag.com/en/coworking-or-co-working-with-hyphen-252

What do you all think? I know this is an old issue, but it’s important
to get the name right, right?

Sophie
Deskmag/Deskwanted


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Liz- Looking forward to hearing what you intern at UT for PR finds out from AP ASAP PDQ. :slight_smile: Sorry, couldn’t resist. (it’s the extra coffee talking)

Thanks & God Bless,

Joel Bennett

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Liz Elam
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 3:30 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [Coworking] Getting rid of the “co-working” hyphen

One of my interns is at UT for PR. She is working all her AP resources…. I’ll let you know what she find.

Liz Elam

Curator of Link Coworking

www.linkcoworking.com

512-632-4591

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Alex Hillman
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 12:25 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Coworking] Getting rid of the “co-working” hyphen

Threads like this one make my day happy.

/ah
indyhall.org
coworking in philadelphia

On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Pat Ramsey [email protected] wrote:

As an old-salt print journo, I say if email isn’t e-mail, coworking shouldn’t be co-working.

Free those what, 8-bits for the hyphen character, back into the ether.

Cheers!

Pat

On Sep 1, 2011, at 10:14 AM, Jacob Sayles wrote:

This is great! Thanks for leading the charge on this. It’s not an old issue, it’s an ongoing issue. First step is to get “coworking” into common use. Second step is to make our argument. It looks like for $20 you can subscribe to AP Stylebook Online and then you have access to Ask The Editor. Not sure if this would be any more effective then the twitter flood already proposed.

Jacob


Office Nomads - Individuality without Isolation
http://www.officenomads.com - (206) 323-6500

On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 2:29 AM, [email protected] [email protected] wrote:

Hi everyone,

For a while now we’ve been annoyed about the resurgence in the use of
the hyphenated version of the word coworking. As you all know, most
major media outlets these days write it as co-working.
Deskmag recently published an article explaining why this is
happening: it’s because the AP Stylebook has decided that co-working
is the correct form.
However, we’d like to ask for your assistance in helping AP change
their minds! We’ve put out a call for people to bombard AP with the
following tweet:

@APStylebook #Coworking is not Co-working. It’s an independent
movement that doesn’t want to be separated by a hyphen!

For a backgrounder on why we think the word should be without a
hyphen, have a read of the article: http://www.deskmag.com/en/coworking-or-co-working-with-hyphen-252

What do you all think? I know this is an old issue, but it’s important
to get the name right, right?

Sophie
Deskmag/Deskwanted


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LULZ.

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On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Veel Hoeden [email protected] wrote:

Liz- Looking forward to hearing what you intern at UT for PR finds out from AP ASAP PDQ. :slight_smile: Sorry, couldn’t resist. (it’s the extra coffee talking)

Thanks & God Bless,

Joel Bennett

Veel Hoeden Chief Dreamchaser http://veelhoeden.posterous.com @veelhoeden

Follow us on Twitter

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Liz Elam
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 3:30 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [Coworking] Getting rid of the “co-working” hyphen

One of my interns is at UT for PR. She is working all her AP resources…. I’ll let you know what she find.

Liz Elam

Curator of Link Coworking

www.linkcoworking.com

512-632-4591

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Alex Hillman
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 12:25 PM
To: [email protected]glegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Coworking] Getting rid of the “co-working” hyphen

Threads like this one make my day happy.

/ah
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coworking in philadelphia

On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Pat Ramsey [email protected] wrote:

As an old-salt print journo, I say if email isn’t e-mail, coworking shouldn’t be co-working.

Free those what, 8-bits for the hyphen character, back into the ether.

Cheers!

Pat

On Sep 1, 2011, at 10:14 AM, Jacob Sayles wrote:

This is great! Thanks for leading the charge on this. It’s not an old issue, it’s an ongoing issue. First step is to get “coworking” into common use. Second step is to make our argument. It looks like for $20 you can subscribe to AP Stylebook Online and then you have access to Ask The Editor. Not sure if this would be any more effective then the twitter flood already proposed.

Jacob


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http://www.officenomads.com - (206) 323-6500

On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 2:29 AM, [email protected] [email protected] wrote:

Hi everyone,

For a while now we’ve been annoyed about the resurgence in the use of
the hyphenated version of the word coworking. As you all know, most
major media outlets these days write it as co-working.

Deskmag recently published an article explaining why this is
happening: it’s because the AP Stylebook has decided that co-working
is the correct form.
However, we’d like to ask for your assistance in helping AP change

their minds! We’ve put out a call for people to bombard AP with the
following tweet:

@APStylebook #Coworking is not Co-working. It’s an independent
movement that doesn’t want to be separated by a hyphen!

For a backgrounder on why we think the word should be without a
hyphen, have a read of the article: http://www.deskmag.com/en/coworking-or-co-working-with-hyphen-252

What do you all think? I know this is an old issue, but it’s important
to get the name right, right?

Sophie
Deskmag/Deskwanted


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On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 2:29 AM, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi everyone,

For a while now we've been annoyed about the resurgence in the use of
the hyphenated version of the word coworking. As you all know, most
major media outlets these days write it as co-working.
Deskmag recently published an article explaining why this is
happening: it's because the AP Stylebook has decided that co-working
is the correct form.
However, we'd like to ask for your assistance in helping AP change
their minds! We've put out a call for people to bombard AP with the
following tweet:

@APStylebook #Coworking is not Co-working. It’s an independent
movement that doesn’t want to be separated by a hyphen!

For a backgrounder on why we think the word should be without a
hyphen, have a read of the article: http://www.deskmag.com/en/coworking-or-co-working-with-hyphen-252

What do you all think? I know this is an old issue, but it's important
to get the name right, right?

Sophie
Deskmag/Deskwanted

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According to a UT professor: It is hyphenated

Here is the exact entry:

AP Stylebook entry

co- Retain the hyphen when forming nouns, adjectives and verbs that indicate occupation or status:

co-author co-pilot

co-chairman co-respondent (in a divorce suit)

co-defendant co-signer

co-host co-sponsor

co-owner co-star

co-partner co-worker

(Several are exceptions to Webster’s New World College Dictionary in the interests of consistency.) Use no hyphen in other combinations:

coed cooperate

coeducation cooperative

coequal coordinate

coexist coordination

coexistence

Cooperate, coordinate and related words are exceptions to the rule that a hyphen is used if a prefix ends in a vowel and the word that follows begins with the same vowel.

We have asked the UT professor to help us contact AP about changing this for Coworking. Apparently they’re open to change. It was suggested that we should have LOTS of examples. Maybe we should start a google doc… https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AquJwRGpy_TAdEpnNnlOUXZ0OVdHejE1NTFmdUlVZWc&hl=en_US#gid=0

Does anyone know what Chicago Style says(they are mainly for magazines and books)?

Cheers – Liz

Liz Elam

Curator of Link Coworking

www.linkcoworking.com

512-632-4591

···

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Alex Hillman
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 4:17 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Coworking] Getting rid of the “co-working” hyphen

LULZ.

/ah
indyhall.org
coworking in philadelphia

On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Veel Hoeden [email protected] wrote:

Liz- Looking forward to hearing what you intern at UT for PR finds out from AP ASAP PDQ. :slight_smile: Sorry, couldn’t resist. (it’s the extra coffee talking)

Thanks & God Bless,

Joel Bennett

Veel Hoeden Chief Dreamchaser http://veelhoeden.posterous.com @veelhoeden

Follow us on Twitter

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Liz Elam
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 3:30 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [Coworking] Getting rid of the “co-working” hyphen

One of my interns is at UT for PR. She is working all her AP resources…. I’ll let you know what she find.

Liz Elam

Curator of Link Coworking

www.linkcoworking.com

512-632-4591

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Alex Hillman
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 12:25 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Coworking] Getting rid of the “co-working” hyphen

Threads like this one make my day happy.

/ah
indyhall.org
coworking in philadelphia

On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Pat Ramsey [email protected] wrote:

As an old-salt print journo, I say if email isn’t e-mail, coworking shouldn’t be co-working.

Free those what, 8-bits for the hyphen character, back into the ether.

Cheers!

Pat

On Sep 1, 2011, at 10:14 AM, Jacob Sayles wrote:

This is great! Thanks for leading the charge on this. It’s not an old issue, it’s an ongoing issue. First step is to get “coworking” into common use. Second step is to make our argument. It looks like for $20 you can subscribe to AP Stylebook Online and then you have access to Ask The Editor. Not sure if this would be any more effective then the twitter flood already proposed.

Jacob


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On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 2:29 AM, [email protected] [email protected] wrote:

Hi everyone,

For a while now we’ve been annoyed about the resurgence in the use of
the hyphenated version of the word coworking. As you all know, most
major media outlets these days write it as co-working.
Deskmag recently published an article explaining why this is
happening: it’s because the AP Stylebook has decided that co-working
is the correct form.
However, we’d like to ask for your assistance in helping AP change
their minds! We’ve put out a call for people to bombard AP with the
following tweet:

@APStylebook #Coworking is not Co-working. It’s an independent
movement that doesn’t want to be separated by a hyphen!

For a backgrounder on why we think the word should be without a
hyphen, have a read of the article: http://www.deskmag.com/en/coworking-or-co-working-with-hyphen-252

What do you all think? I know this is an old issue, but it’s important
to get the name right, right?

Sophie
Deskmag/Deskwanted


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Yabbut that co-worker is a different concept from our kind of coworking.

S

···

On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Liz Elam [email protected] wrote:

According to a UT professor: It is hyphenated

Here is the exact entry:

AP Stylebook entry

co- Retain the hyphen when forming nouns, adjectives and verbs that indicate occupation or status:

co-author co-pilot

co-chairman co-respondent (in a divorce suit)

co-defendant co-signer

co-host co-sponsor

co-owner co-star

co-partner co-worker

(Several are exceptions to Webster’s New World College Dictionary in the interests of consistency.) Use no hyphen in other combinations:

coed cooperate

coeducation cooperative

coequal coordinate

coexist coordination

coexistence

Cooperate, coordinate and related words are exceptions to the rule that a hyphen is used if a prefix ends in a vowel and the word that follows begins with the same vowel.

We have asked the UT professor to help us contact AP about changing this for Coworking. Apparently they’re open to change. It was suggested that we should have LOTS of examples. Maybe we should start a google doc… https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AquJwRGpy_TAdEpnNnlOUXZ0OVdHejE1NTFmdUlVZWc&hl=en_US#gid=0

Does anyone know what Chicago Style says(they are mainly for magazines and books)?

Cheers – Liz

Liz Elam

Curator of Link Coworking

www.linkcoworking.com

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Alex Hillman
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 4:17 PM

To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Coworking] Getting rid of the “co-working” hyphen

LULZ.

/ah
indyhall.org

coworking in philadelphia

On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Veel Hoeden [email protected] wrote:

Liz- Looking forward to hearing what you intern at UT for PR finds out from AP ASAP PDQ. :slight_smile: Sorry, couldn’t resist. (it’s the extra coffee talking)

Thanks & God Bless,

Joel Bennett

Veel Hoeden Chief Dreamchaser http://veelhoeden.posterous.com @veelhoeden

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Liz Elam
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 3:30 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [Coworking] Getting rid of the “co-working” hyphen

One of my interns is at UT for PR. She is working all her AP resources…. I’ll let you know what she find.

Liz Elam

Curator of Link Coworking

www.linkcoworking.com

512-632-4591

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Alex Hillman
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 12:25 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Coworking] Getting rid of the “co-working” hyphen

Threads like this one make my day happy.

/ah
indyhall.org

coworking in philadelphia

On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Pat Ramsey [email protected] wrote:

As an old-salt print journo, I say if email isn’t e-mail, coworking shouldn’t be co-working.

Free those what, 8-bits for the hyphen character, back into the ether.

Cheers!

Pat

On Sep 1, 2011, at 10:14 AM, Jacob Sayles wrote:

This is great! Thanks for leading the charge on this. It’s not an old issue, it’s an ongoing issue. First step is to get “coworking” into common use. Second step is to make our argument. It looks like for $20 you can subscribe to AP Stylebook Online and then you have access to Ask The Editor. Not sure if this would be any more effective then the twitter flood already proposed.

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On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 2:29 AM, [email protected] [email protected] wrote:

Hi everyone,

For a while now we’ve been annoyed about the resurgence in the use of
the hyphenated version of the word coworking. As you all know, most
major media outlets these days write it as co-working.

Deskmag recently published an article explaining why this is
happening: it’s because the AP Stylebook has decided that co-working
is the correct form.
However, we’d like to ask for your assistance in helping AP change

their minds! We’ve put out a call for people to bombard AP with the
following tweet:

@APStylebook #Coworking is not Co-working. It’s an independent
movement that doesn’t want to be separated by a hyphen!

For a backgrounder on why we think the word should be without a
hyphen, have a read of the article: http://www.deskmag.com/en/coworking-or-co-working-with-hyphen-252

What do you all think? I know this is an old issue, but it’s important
to get the name right, right?

Sophie
Deskmag/Deskwanted


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Wow Liz - great work!
We're going to devote some hours to creating a package of examples to
send off. I'll report back when it is ready and we can coordinate how
to present it to AP!

Sophie

Let me know if there’s anything we can put at http://doescoworkinghaveahyphen.com/

-Alex

-Alex

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···

On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 5:06 AM, [email protected] [email protected] wrote:

Wow Liz - great work!

We’re going to devote some hours to creating a package of examples to

send off. I’ll report back when it is ready and we can coordinate how

to present it to AP!

Sophie

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There hasn’t been any movement on this in 3 years. Anyone have an update? Liz? Alex? Tony? Jacob? Anybody?

I had no idea how bad this issue was.

I encountered this today with some press being written on Fort Work in the Dallas media today.

When I saw the article posted, I saw a few misquotes about coworking statistics as well as the misspelling of coworking (hyphen included, not the cowering autocorrect).

When I requested that both be corrected, the writer told me she could change (or omit) the quotes, but that AP style guides forbid her from changing the spelling of coworking.

Here’s her actual response (C+P’ed below):

Hi Oren,

I’ll take a look at the microsite — thank you! I’ll also rework your quote, or take it out entirely to make to correct the statement.

On the word co-working, this is an AP style that’s out of our control. Again, I’ll take a look at the details first thing in the morning and will make the changes immediately.

Thank for the email. I really appreciate it.

Take care,

···

On Thursday, September 1, 2011 4:29:20 AM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:

Hi everyone,

For a while now we’ve been annoyed about the resurgence in the use of

the hyphenated version of the word coworking. As you all know, most

major media outlets these days write it as co-working.

Deskmag recently published an article explaining why this is

happening: it’s because the AP Stylebook has decided that co-working

is the correct form.

However, we’d like to ask for your assistance in helping AP change

their minds! We’ve put out a call for people to bombard AP with the

following tweet:

@APStylebook #Coworking is not Co-working. It’s an independent

movement that doesn’t want to be separated by a hyphen!

For a backgrounder on why we think the word should be without a

hyphen, have a read of the article: http://www.deskmag.com/en/coworking-or-co-working-with-hyphen-252

What do you all think? I know this is an old issue, but it’s important

to get the name right, right?

Sophie

Deskmag/Deskwanted

I haven’t heard any movement on it but I’d love to see us take another stab at it. Lauren, our newest employee, had some great ideas on what we could do to grease the skids for the AP but she’s only worked here one week so she may need some time to settle in. :slight_smile:

Sometimes you just have to let it go. For the NYTimes article on the Coworking Visa recently I went to bat just like you did and got a similar response. Funny though they did not hyphenate “Coworking Visa” as that is a name of a program but they did hyphenate the word everywhere else in the article.

···

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On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 10:09 PM, [email protected] [email protected] wrote:

Hi everyone,

For a while now we’ve been annoyed about the resurgence in the use of

the hyphenated version of the word coworking. As you all know, most

major media outlets these days write it as co-working.

Deskmag recently published an article explaining why this is

happening: it’s because the AP Stylebook has decided that co-working

is the correct form.

However, we’d like to ask for your assistance in helping AP change

their minds! We’ve put out a call for people to bombard AP with the

following tweet:

@APStylebook #Coworking is not Co-working. It’s an independent

movement that doesn’t want to be separated by a hyphen!

For a backgrounder on why we think the word should be without a

hyphen, have a read of the article: http://www.deskmag.com/en/coworking-or-co-working-with-hyphen-252

What do you all think? I know this is an old issue, but it’s important

to get the name right, right?

Sophie

Deskmag/Deskwanted
There hasn’t been any movement on this in 3 years. Anyone have an update? Liz? Alex? Tony? Jacob? Anybody?

I had no idea how bad this issue was.

I encountered this today with some press being written on Fort Work in the Dallas media today.

When I saw the article posted, I saw a few misquotes about coworking statistics as well as the misspelling of coworking (hyphen included, not the cowering autocorrect).

When I requested that both be corrected, the writer told me she could change (or omit) the quotes, but that AP style guides forbid her from changing the spelling of coworking.

Here’s her actual response (C+P’ed below):

Hi Oren,

I’ll take a look at the microsite — thank you! I’ll also rework your quote, or take it out entirely to make to correct the statement.

On the word co-working, this is an AP style that’s out of our control. Again, I’ll take a look at the details first thing in the morning and will make the changes immediately.

Thank for the email. I really appreciate it.

Take care,

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they did not hyphenate “Coworking Visa” as that is a name of a program but they did hyphenate the word everywhere else in the article.

This illustrates the issue perfectly. If Brad had invented something that sounded more proprietary, like “Bradworking,” then there’d be no issue. But by calling it something so simple that anyone who saw it could immediately understand what it was, he made something that could more easily blossom into a global movement.

The fact that neither he nor anyone else retained control over the word further allowed for that blossoming, but at a cost. If there’s no authority on the word, issues like this become difficult to overcome.

The only way I could see us making headway would be if some subset of us formed a sufficiently powerful coalition that could wield some kind of authority over the word, without violating the decentralized spirit of the movement.

···

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On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Jacob Sayles [email protected] wrote:

I haven’t heard any movement on it but I’d love to see us take another stab at it. Lauren, our newest employee, had some great ideas on what we could do to grease the skids for the AP but she’s only worked here one week so she may need some time to settle in. :slight_smile:

Sometimes you just have to let it go. For the NYTimes article on the Coworking Visa recently I went to bat just like you did and got a similar response. Funny though they did not hyphenate “Coworking Visa” as that is a name of a program but they did hyphenate the word everywhere else in the article.

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On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 10:09 PM, [email protected] [email protected] wrote:

Hi everyone,

For a while now we’ve been annoyed about the resurgence in the use of

the hyphenated version of the word coworking. As you all know, most

major media outlets these days write it as co-working.

Deskmag recently published an article explaining why this is

happening: it’s because the AP Stylebook has decided that co-working

is the correct form.

However, we’d like to ask for your assistance in helping AP change

their minds! We’ve put out a call for people to bombard AP with the

following tweet:

@APStylebook #Coworking is not Co-working. It’s an independent

movement that doesn’t want to be separated by a hyphen!

For a backgrounder on why we think the word should be without a

hyphen, have a read of the article: http://www.deskmag.com/en/coworking-or-co-working-with-hyphen-252

What do you all think? I know this is an old issue, but it’s important

to get the name right, right?

Sophie

Deskmag/Deskwanted
There hasn’t been any movement on this in 3 years. Anyone have an update? Liz? Alex? Tony? Jacob? Anybody?

I had no idea how bad this issue was.

I encountered this today with some press being written on Fort Work in the Dallas media today.

When I saw the article posted, I saw a few misquotes about coworking statistics as well as the misspelling of coworking (hyphen included, not the cowering autocorrect).

When I requested that both be corrected, the writer told me she could change (or omit) the quotes, but that AP style guides forbid her from changing the spelling of coworking.

Here’s her actual response (C+P’ed below):

Hi Oren,

I’ll take a look at the microsite — thank you! I’ll also rework your quote, or take it out entirely to make to correct the statement.

On the word co-working, this is an AP style that’s out of our control. Again, I’ll take a look at the details first thing in the morning and will make the changes immediately.

Thank for the email. I really appreciate it.

Take care,

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The hyphenation battle is a tough one to win because of the AP stylebook challenge. I find I’m encountering camel-case more often though, and usually on city/county documents where they don’t duplicate form data the same way I’ve entered it. CoWork is fairly annoying, particularly when it’s part of our name (Cowork Frederick), but when they give us the double-whammy and make us Co-Work Frederick, I start to think they’re just doing it to mess with me. It reminds me of a comedy video about Starbucks baristas deliberately misspelling names on the cups.

···

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On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Tony Bacigalupo [email protected] wrote:

they did not hyphenate “Coworking Visa” as that is a name of a program but they did hyphenate the word everywhere else in the article.

This illustrates the issue perfectly. If Brad had invented something that sounded more proprietary, like “Bradworking,” then there’d be no issue. But by calling it something so simple that anyone who saw it could immediately understand what it was, he made something that could more easily blossom into a global movement.

The fact that neither he nor anyone else retained control over the word further allowed for that blossoming, but at a cost. If there’s no authority on the word, issues like this become difficult to overcome.

The only way I could see us making headway would be if some subset of us formed a sufficiently powerful coalition that could wield some kind of authority over the word, without violating the decentralized spirit of the movement.

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On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Jacob Sayles [email protected] wrote:

I haven’t heard any movement on it but I’d love to see us take another stab at it. Lauren, our newest employee, had some great ideas on what we could do to grease the skids for the AP but she’s only worked here one week so she may need some time to settle in. :slight_smile:

Sometimes you just have to let it go. For the NYTimes article on the Coworking Visa recently I went to bat just like you did and got a similar response. Funny though they did not hyphenate “Coworking Visa” as that is a name of a program but they did hyphenate the word everywhere else in the article.

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On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 10:09 PM, [email protected] [email protected] wrote:

Hi everyone,

For a while now we’ve been annoyed about the resurgence in the use of

the hyphenated version of the word coworking. As you all know, most

major media outlets these days write it as co-working.

Deskmag recently published an article explaining why this is

happening: it’s because the AP Stylebook has decided that co-working

is the correct form.

However, we’d like to ask for your assistance in helping AP change

their minds! We’ve put out a call for people to bombard AP with the

following tweet:

@APStylebook #Coworking is not Co-working. It’s an independent

movement that doesn’t want to be separated by a hyphen!

For a backgrounder on why we think the word should be without a

hyphen, have a read of the article: http://www.deskmag.com/en/coworking-or-co-working-with-hyphen-252

What do you all think? I know this is an old issue, but it’s important

to get the name right, right?

Sophie

Deskmag/Deskwanted
There hasn’t been any movement on this in 3 years. Anyone have an update? Liz? Alex? Tony? Jacob? Anybody?

I had no idea how bad this issue was.

I encountered this today with some press being written on Fort Work in the Dallas media today.

When I saw the article posted, I saw a few misquotes about coworking statistics as well as the misspelling of coworking (hyphen included, not the cowering autocorrect).

When I requested that both be corrected, the writer told me she could change (or omit) the quotes, but that AP style guides forbid her from changing the spelling of coworking.

Here’s her actual response (C+P’ed below):

Hi Oren,

I’ll take a look at the microsite — thank you! I’ll also rework your quote, or take it out entirely to make to correct the statement.

On the word co-working, this is an AP style that’s out of our control. Again, I’ll take a look at the details first thing in the morning and will make the changes immediately.

Thank for the email. I really appreciate it.

Take care,

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Coworking mafia.

···

On Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:28:16 AM UTC-7, Tony Bacigalupo wrote:

they did not hyphenate “Coworking Visa” as that is a name of a program but they did hyphenate the word everywhere else in the article.

This illustrates the issue perfectly. If Brad had invented something that sounded more proprietary, like “Bradworking,” then there’d be no issue. But by calling it something so simple that anyone who saw it could immediately understand what it was, he made something that could more easily blossom into a global movement.

The fact that neither he nor anyone else retained control over the word further allowed for that blossoming, but at a cost. If there’s no authority on the word, issues like this become difficult to overcome.

The only way I could see us making headway would be if some subset of us formed a sufficiently powerful coalition that could wield some kind of authority over the word, without violating the decentralized spirit of the movement.

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On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Jacob Sayles [email protected] wrote:

I haven’t heard any movement on it but I’d love to see us take another stab at it. Lauren, our newest employee, had some great ideas on what we could do to grease the skids for the AP but she’s only worked here one week so she may need some time to settle in. :slight_smile:

Sometimes you just have to let it go. For the NYTimes article on the Coworking Visa recently I went to bat just like you did and got a similar response. Funny though they did not hyphenate “Coworking Visa” as that is a name of a program but they did hyphenate the word everywhere else in the article.

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On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 10:09 PM, [email protected] [email protected] wrote:

Hi everyone,

For a while now we’ve been annoyed about the resurgence in the use of

the hyphenated version of the word coworking. As you all know, most

major media outlets these days write it as co-working.

Deskmag recently published an article explaining why this is

happening: it’s because the AP Stylebook has decided that co-working

is the correct form.

However, we’d like to ask for your assistance in helping AP change

their minds! We’ve put out a call for people to bombard AP with the

following tweet:

@APStylebook #Coworking is not Co-working. It’s an independent

movement that doesn’t want to be separated by a hyphen!

For a backgrounder on why we think the word should be without a

hyphen, have a read of the article: http://www.deskmag.com/en/coworking-or-co-working-with-hyphen-252

What do you all think? I know this is an old issue, but it’s important

to get the name right, right?

Sophie

Deskmag/Deskwanted
There hasn’t been any movement on this in 3 years. Anyone have an update? Liz? Alex? Tony? Jacob? Anybody?

I had no idea how bad this issue was.

I encountered this today with some press being written on Fort Work in the Dallas media today.

When I saw the article posted, I saw a few misquotes about coworking statistics as well as the misspelling of coworking (hyphen included, not the cowering autocorrect).

When I requested that both be corrected, the writer told me she could change (or omit) the quotes, but that AP style guides forbid her from changing the spelling of coworking.

Here’s her actual response (C+P’ed below):

Hi Oren,

I’ll take a look at the microsite — thank you! I’ll also rework your quote, or take it out entirely to make to correct the statement.

On the word co-working, this is an AP style that’s out of our control. Again, I’ll take a look at the details first thing in the morning and will make the changes immediately.

Thank for the email. I really appreciate it.

Take care,

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Sounds like something Open Coworking could undertake if y’all aren’t opposed. After all we do already operate coworking.com and coworking.org.

I think the first order of business is figuring out who makes this call.

Does anyone have any place where to start on discovering who’s in charge here?

···

On Tuesday, September 16, 2014 1:28:16 PM UTC-5, Tony Bacigalupo wrote:

they did not hyphenate “Coworking Visa” as that is a name of a program but they did hyphenate the word everywhere else in the article.

This illustrates the issue perfectly. If Brad had invented something that sounded more proprietary, like “Bradworking,” then there’d be no issue. But by calling it something so simple that anyone who saw it could immediately understand what it was, he made something that could more easily blossom into a global movement.

The fact that neither he nor anyone else retained control over the word further allowed for that blossoming, but at a cost. If there’s no authority on the word, issues like this become difficult to overcome.

The only way I could see us making headway would be if some subset of us formed a sufficiently powerful coalition that could wield some kind of authority over the word, without violating the decentralized spirit of the movement.

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On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Jacob Sayles [email protected] wrote:

I haven’t heard any movement on it but I’d love to see us take another stab at it. Lauren, our newest employee, had some great ideas on what we could do to grease the skids for the AP but she’s only worked here one week so she may need some time to settle in. :slight_smile:

Sometimes you just have to let it go. For the NYTimes article on the Coworking Visa recently I went to bat just like you did and got a similar response. Funny though they did not hyphenate “Coworking Visa” as that is a name of a program but they did hyphenate the word everywhere else in the article.

Jacob


Office Nomads - Individuality without Isolation
http://www.officenomads.com - (206) 323-6500

On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 10:09 PM, [email protected] [email protected] wrote:

Hi everyone,

For a while now we’ve been annoyed about the resurgence in the use of

the hyphenated version of the word coworking. As you all know, most

major media outlets these days write it as co-working.

Deskmag recently published an article explaining why this is

happening: it’s because the AP Stylebook has decided that co-working

is the correct form.

However, we’d like to ask for your assistance in helping AP change

their minds! We’ve put out a call for people to bombard AP with the

following tweet:

@APStylebook #Coworking is not Co-working. It’s an independent

movement that doesn’t want to be separated by a hyphen!

For a backgrounder on why we think the word should be without a

hyphen, have a read of the article: http://www.deskmag.com/en/coworking-or-co-working-with-hyphen-252

What do you all think? I know this is an old issue, but it’s important

to get the name right, right?

Sophie

Deskmag/Deskwanted
There hasn’t been any movement on this in 3 years. Anyone have an update? Liz? Alex? Tony? Jacob? Anybody?

I had no idea how bad this issue was.

I encountered this today with some press being written on Fort Work in the Dallas media today.

When I saw the article posted, I saw a few misquotes about coworking statistics as well as the misspelling of coworking (hyphen included, not the cowering autocorrect).

When I requested that both be corrected, the writer told me she could change (or omit) the quotes, but that AP style guides forbid her from changing the spelling of coworking.

Here’s her actual response (C+P’ed below):

Hi Oren,

I’ll take a look at the microsite — thank you! I’ll also rework your quote, or take it out entirely to make to correct the statement.

On the word co-working, this is an AP style that’s out of our control. Again, I’ll take a look at the details first thing in the morning and will make the changes immediately.

Thank for the email. I really appreciate it.

Take care,

On Thursday, September 1, 2011 4:29:20 AM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:

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I asked a professional editor friend of mine and this is what she had to say:

"I think usually the style guides follow the dictionary, and the dictionary is descriptive, not prescriptive. I just had Roma check Webster’s, and she says there’s no entry for “coworking,” just “coworker,” which of course means something different. I wonder if AP is inserting the hyphen in order to distinguish our kind of coworking from this other use?

Speaking of descriptive instead of prescriptive. Google reports over 7 million uses of “coworking” but only about 800,000 of “co-working,” and 1.8 million hits of “coworking space” to “co-working space.” That’s the kind of data that should convince the style wonks.

They may have a policy on use of “co-” words generally that overrides when there’s no entry in the dictionary. My guess is that getting a dictionary entry will be easier than convincing AP. The style guides will follow."

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On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 1:17 PM, [email protected] [email protected] wrote:

Sounds like something Open Coworking could undertake if y’all aren’t opposed. After all we do already operate coworking.com and coworking.org.

I think the first order of business is figuring out who makes this call.

Does anyone have any place where to start on discovering who’s in charge here?

On Tuesday, September 16, 2014 1:28:16 PM UTC-5, Tony Bacigalupo wrote:

they did not hyphenate “Coworking Visa” as that is a name of a program but they did hyphenate the word everywhere else in the article.

This illustrates the issue perfectly. If Brad had invented something that sounded more proprietary, like “Bradworking,” then there’d be no issue. But by calling it something so simple that anyone who saw it could immediately understand what it was, he made something that could more easily blossom into a global movement.

The fact that neither he nor anyone else retained control over the word further allowed for that blossoming, but at a cost. If there’s no authority on the word, issues like this become difficult to overcome.

The only way I could see us making headway would be if some subset of us formed a sufficiently powerful coalition that could wield some kind of authority over the word, without violating the decentralized spirit of the movement.

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On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Jacob Sayles [email protected] wrote:

I haven’t heard any movement on it but I’d love to see us take another stab at it. Lauren, our newest employee, had some great ideas on what we could do to grease the skids for the AP but she’s only worked here one week so she may need some time to settle in. :slight_smile:

Sometimes you just have to let it go. For the NYTimes article on the Coworking Visa recently I went to bat just like you did and got a similar response. Funny though they did not hyphenate “Coworking Visa” as that is a name of a program but they did hyphenate the word everywhere else in the article.

Jacob


Office Nomads - Individuality without Isolation
http://www.officenomads.com - (206) 323-6500

On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 10:09 PM, [email protected] [email protected] wrote:

Hi everyone,

For a while now we’ve been annoyed about the resurgence in the use of

the hyphenated version of the word coworking. As you all know, most

major media outlets these days write it as co-working.

Deskmag recently published an article explaining why this is

happening: it’s because the AP Stylebook has decided that co-working

is the correct form.

However, we’d like to ask for your assistance in helping AP change

their minds! We’ve put out a call for people to bombard AP with the

following tweet:

@APStylebook #Coworking is not Co-working. It’s an independent

movement that doesn’t want to be separated by a hyphen!

For a backgrounder on why we think the word should be without a

hyphen, have a read of the article: http://www.deskmag.com/en/coworking-or-co-working-with-hyphen-252

What do you all think? I know this is an old issue, but it’s important

to get the name right, right?

Sophie

Deskmag/Deskwanted
There hasn’t been any movement on this in 3 years. Anyone have an update? Liz? Alex? Tony? Jacob? Anybody?

I had no idea how bad this issue was.

I encountered this today with some press being written on Fort Work in the Dallas media today.

When I saw the article posted, I saw a few misquotes about coworking statistics as well as the misspelling of coworking (hyphen included, not the cowering autocorrect).

When I requested that both be corrected, the writer told me she could change (or omit) the quotes, but that AP style guides forbid her from changing the spelling of coworking.

Here’s her actual response (C+P’ed below):

Hi Oren,

I’ll take a look at the microsite — thank you! I’ll also rework your quote, or take it out entirely to make to correct the statement.

On the word co-working, this is an AP style that’s out of our control. Again, I’ll take a look at the details first thing in the morning and will make the changes immediately.

Thank for the email. I really appreciate it.

Take care,

On Thursday, September 1, 2011 4:29:20 AM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:

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