Vandalism/idiot tenants

Hey All,

Starting a coworking space and wondering…

What safeguards do people implement to prevent stolen passes or idiots tenants coming in and vandalizing or theft?

Cameras obviously but anything else?

Have people had problems?

Alex Hillman has a legend story about theft :slight_smile:

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On Wed, 22 Feb 2017 at 13:34, Rohat [email protected] wrote:

Hey All,

Starting a coworking space and wondering…

What safeguards do people implement to prevent stolen passes or idiots tenants coming in and vandalizing or theft?

Cameras obviously but anything else?

Have people had problems?

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Sure do :slight_smile:

https://dangerouslyawesome.com/2014/07/the-neighborhood-watch-method-for-coworking-space-security/

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On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 12:06 AM, Bernie J Mitchell [email protected] wrote:

Alex Hillman has a legend story about theft :slight_smile:

On Wed, 22 Feb 2017 at 13:34, Rohat [email protected] wrote:

Hey All,

Starting a coworking space and wondering…

What safeguards do people implement to prevent stolen passes or idiots tenants coming in and vandalizing or theft?

Cameras obviously but anything else?

Have people had problems?

Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com


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The #1 mistake in community building is doing it by yourself.

Better Coworkers: http://indyhall.org

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My Audiobook: https://theindyhallway.com/ten

A deposit for their membership and a security firm. If you are open 24\7 it is hard yo have a working alarm system. We have not had any issues in 6 years at Betacowork.

Ramon
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I bloody love this style of managing the issue at hand Alex, spot on!

I think as a semi manned space with few fixed desks and a large cohort of “part time” members it necessitated one camera on the front door. An affordable solution to simply understand who is present in the environment at the time of an unfortunate event.

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On Wednesday, February 22, 2017 at 5:12:30 PM UTC, Alex Hillman wrote:

Sure do :slight_smile:

https://dangerouslyawesome.com/2014/07/the-neighborhood-watch-method-for-coworking-space-security/


The #1 mistake in community building is doing it by yourself.

Better Coworkers: http://indyhall.org

Weekly Coworking Tips: http://coworkingweekly.com

My Audiobook: https://theindyhallway.com/ten

On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 12:06 AM, Bernie J Mitchell [email protected] wrote:

Alex Hillman has a legend story about theft :slight_smile:

On Wed, 22 Feb 2017 at 13:34, Rohat [email protected] wrote:

Hey All,

Starting a coworking space and wondering…

What safeguards do people implement to prevent stolen passes or idiots tenants coming in and vandalizing or theft?

Cameras obviously but anything else?

Have people had problems?

Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com


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Yup - I’m not anti-camera (our new building has them throughout, though we still don’t have them in our own space). But I also know that cameras only really help in hindsight. The neighborhood watch message is much more proactive, and encourages members to be engaged citizens on more levels than basic safety…e.g. the story at the end of my post linked above.

At the end of the day, this comes down to the venn diagram of your tolerance and your members tolerance for risk. My guiding philosophy has always been that bad things can happen no matter what you do, so instead of pretending you can totally prevent them it’s best to mitigate where possible in a way that doesn’t stifle the most valuable parts of the experience.

**Said another way: there’s a finite possible bad, and a nearly infinite possible good. Know the former and manage it, but put your max energy and resources into the latter. **

-Alex

-Alex

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On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 3:50 AM, Matt G [email protected] wrote:

I bloody love this style of managing the issue at hand Alex, spot on!

I think as a semi manned space with few fixed desks and a large cohort of “part time” members it necessitated one camera on the front door. An affordable solution to simply understand who is present in the environment at the time of an unfortunate event.

On Wednesday, February 22, 2017 at 5:12:30 PM UTC, Alex Hillman wrote:

Sure do :slight_smile:

https://dangerouslyawesome.com/2014/07/the-neighborhood-watch-method-for-coworking-space-security/


The #1 mistake in community building is doing it by yourself.

Better Coworkers: http://indyhall.org

Weekly Coworking Tips: http://coworkingweekly.com

My Audiobook: https://theindyhallway.com/ten

On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 12:06 AM, Bernie J Mitchell [email protected] wrote:

Alex Hillman has a legend story about theft :slight_smile:

On Wed, 22 Feb 2017 at 13:34, Rohat [email protected] wrote:

Hey All,

Starting a coworking space and wondering…

What safeguards do people implement to prevent stolen passes or idiots tenants coming in and vandalizing or theft?

Cameras obviously but anything else?

Have people had problems?

Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com


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The #1 mistake in community building is doing it by yourself.

Better Coworkers: http://indyhall.org

Weekly Coworking Tips: http://coworkingweekly.com

My Audiobook: https://theindyhallway.com/ten

One more thing to toss into this thread - the latest episode of my podcast talks not just about the technique we use to secure our coworking space, but the messy incident that helped us create it: http://listen.coworkingweekly.com/episodes/60913-ep54-a-better-security-system-for-your-coworking-space

Believe it or not, I recorded this over a month ago but it just went live today! :slight_smile:

-Alex

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On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 9:23 AM, Alex Hillman [email protected] wrote:

Yup - I’m not anti-camera (our new building has them throughout, though we still don’t have them in our own space). But I also know that cameras only really help in hindsight. The neighborhood watch message is much more proactive, and encourages members to be engaged citizens on more levels than basic safety…e.g. the story at the end of my post linked above.

At the end of the day, this comes down to the venn diagram of your tolerance and your members tolerance for risk. My guiding philosophy has always been that bad things can happen no matter what you do, so instead of pretending you can totally prevent them it’s best to mitigate where possible in a way that doesn’t stifle the most valuable parts of the experience.

**Said another way: there’s a finite possible bad, and a nearly infinite possible good. Know the former and manage it, but put your max energy and resources into the latter. **

-Alex

-Alex


The #1 mistake in community building is doing it by yourself.

Better Coworkers: http://indyhall.org

Weekly Coworking Tips: http://coworkingweekly.com

My Audiobook: https://theindyhallway.com/ten


The #1 mistake in community building is doing it by yourself.

Better Coworkers: http://indyhall.org

Weekly Coworking Tips: http://coworkingweekly.com

My Audiobook: https://theindyhallway.com/ten

On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 3:50 AM, Matt G [email protected] wrote:

I bloody love this style of managing the issue at hand Alex, spot on!

I think as a semi manned space with few fixed desks and a large cohort of “part time” members it necessitated one camera on the front door. An affordable solution to simply understand who is present in the environment at the time of an unfortunate event.

On Wednesday, February 22, 2017 at 5:12:30 PM UTC, Alex Hillman wrote:

Sure do :slight_smile:

https://dangerouslyawesome.com/2014/07/the-neighborhood-watch-method-for-coworking-space-security/


The #1 mistake in community building is doing it by yourself.

Better Coworkers: http://indyhall.org

Weekly Coworking Tips: http://coworkingweekly.com

My Audiobook: https://theindyhallway.com/ten

On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 12:06 AM, Bernie J Mitchell [email protected] wrote:

Alex Hillman has a legend story about theft :slight_smile:

On Wed, 22 Feb 2017 at 13:34, Rohat [email protected] wrote:

Hey All,

Starting a coworking space and wondering…

What safeguards do people implement to prevent stolen passes or idiots tenants coming in and vandalizing or theft?

Cameras obviously but anything else?

Have people had problems?

Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com


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Cohere coworking provides 24/7 access/trust from the moment someone becomes a member. As long as they have a tour or free day before joining, they get the same access on day 1 as any existing member. We are now 7 years old and have zero instances of anything going wrong. One time a weird dry erase marker stain appeared on some carpet but who knows how/why. I don’t know if our model works because our community is smaller and everyone can easily know everyone else. Prospective members often inquire about security and I honestly don’t even know what to say to them. I usually point to my desk that has a computer, all the keys to the space, some cash and some checks in an unlocked drawer and say that it’s all been there for 7 years and nothing has ever gone missing…

For Cohere Bandwidth, our shared musician’s rehearsal space. We have a few more layers but only because music gear is notoriously stolen and we’ve got about $50,000 in gear just sitting there.

First, we met with the police officers who are on patrol in our neighborhood. We explained what our biz is–musicians coming and going at odd and late hours and that if they ever saw someone hauling a BUNCH of gear out, that’s bad.

Second, we require bands to register for an account. We review their account details like the band’s facebook page, address and email address to determine if they seem legit. Over 2 years we have not activated 2 accounts that look like spam or are fake.

Third, a staff person meets each band for their first rehearsal but bands are completely independent for any followup rehearsals–no staff, no nothing.

Fourth, There are 2 layers of keycoded doors to get to the gear.

Fifth, there is a camera in the lobby but it’s just for looks and for review if something does go missing.

We have had 2 guitar pedals stolen and we never recovered them. That stung and the general feeling among our customers was “fuck, that really sucks–what musician steals from other musicians?!” Due to that we have implemented a daily gear check by staff so that if something does go missing, we would know about it within 24 hours, have those people on film and have a record of what keycode was used during that time so we could narrow it down to only 2-4 bands.

Angel

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On Wednesday, February 22, 2017 at 6:34:17 AM UTC-7, Rohat wrote:

Hey All,

Starting a coworking space and wondering…

What safeguards do people implement to prevent stolen passes or idiots tenants coming in and vandalizing or theft?

Cameras obviously but anything else?

Have people had problems?