Coffee Shop/Coworking Combination Business Model

Hi All!

I have been searching for this in the past threads but haven’t found this exactly. I was wondering if anyone has a Coworking space and coffee shop combination, where the coffee shop is an actual cafe run by a separate entity? The cafe would be in the front showroom area of the old auto dealership building I have in mind, with coworking in the warehouse/office part in the back; there would be some separation of the spaces, but I’d like to at least have a clear view into some the coworking space from the cafe. I have someone who might be interested, and it would certainly pull in potential coworkers. With the exception of Starbucks, most cafes in Pasadena are discontinuing their wifi, so I don’t think anyone would be especially outraged if that wasn’t offered in the cafe part. What may irritate coworkers is paying for coffee! Anyone have a business model for this they could share? Or is this a bad combo, and why?

You all might get a kick out of this segement a few weeks ago on our local radio station about Coffee Shop Squatters: http://www.scpr.org/programs/airtalk/2013/09/10/33648/coffeehouses-fight-back-against-wi-fi-squatters/ I was driving and so I couldn’t call in and plug coworking as the solution!

Many thanks!

Loren

Hi - always felt this might work but not yet tried it at our hubs - seems to have taken off brilliantly here:

www.centralworking.com at the BLOOMSBURY unit.

Footfall is mega in that area so am sure that contributes to the success and the ‘front seating’ at stools/bars is not designed for laptop width! Member area / fab co working space that you can see on the pics on the site is accessed through turnstile

Interesting article & comments on the Coffee Shop Squatters thanks for sharing that - agree with consensus that one hour code would protect the business owners’ investment & onward trade.

New style’ units may well spring up based on market demand - Working Cafes where the coffee may be dearer but the service is costed in.

Best,

Fay

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of LA Tripp
Sent: 13 October 2013 07:25
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Coworking] Coffee Shop/Coworking Combination Business Model

Hi All!

I have been searching for this in the past threads but haven’t found this exactly. I was wondering if anyone has a Coworking space and coffee shop combination, where the coffee shop is an actual cafe run by a separate entity? The cafe would be in the front showroom area of the old auto dealership building I have in mind, with coworking in the warehouse/office part in the back; there would be some separation of the spaces, but I’d like to at least have a clear view into some the coworking space from the cafe. I have someone who might be interested, and it would certainly pull in potential coworkers. With the exception of Starbucks, most cafes in Pasadena are discontinuing their wifi, so I don’t think anyone would be especially outraged if that wasn’t offered in the cafe part. What may irritate coworkers is paying for coffee! Anyone have a business model for this they could share? Or is this a bad combo, and why?

You all might get a kick out of this segement a few weeks ago on our local radio station about Coffee Shop Squatters: http://www.scpr.org/programs/airtalk/2013/09/10/33648/coffeehouses-fight-back-against-wi-fi-squatters/ I was driving and so I couldn’t call in and plug coworking as the solution!

Many thanks!

Loren


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Workantile had a coffee shop in the front of our space for a while when we first opened, but it did not work.

Even though the coffee shop was separated from the coworking area by a couple of walls, noise from the bean grinders, espresso machine, and chatter from the coffee shop customers spilled over into the coworking area. There was a constant stream of coffee shop customers traipsing through the coworking area to use the bathrooms. It was all incredibly distracting. Pretty much everything people hated about working in coffee shops was there in the coworking area.

The shop eventually moved out into a larger space, and we claimed their former space for our own. This worked out for everyone - the shop got more space, we got more space, and the distractions that the coffee shop imposed on us were gone. We now provide Zingerman’s coffee in our kitchen for members. There are several coffee shops within a couple blocks of Workantile that members use as well.

It sounds like a good idea, but unless you carefully work out noise isolation, bathroom access, foot traffic flow, and so forth, there will be problems.

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On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 2:41 AM, Fay Easton [email protected] wrote:

Hi - always felt this might work but not yet tried it at our hubs - seems to have taken off brilliantly here:

www.centralworking.com at the BLOOMSBURY unit.

Footfall is mega in that area so am sure that contributes to the success and the ‘front seating’ at stools/bars is not designed for laptop width! Member area / fab co working space that you can see on the pics on the site is accessed through turnstile

Interesting article & comments on the Coffee Shop Squatters thanks for sharing that - agree with consensus that one hour code would protect the business owners’ investment & onward trade.

New style’ units may well spring up based on market demand - Working Cafes where the coffee may be dearer but the service is costed in.

Best,

Fay

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of LA Tripp
Sent: 13 October 2013 07:25
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Coworking] Coffee Shop/Coworking Combination Business Model

Hi All!

I have been searching for this in the past threads but haven’t found this exactly. I was wondering if anyone has a Coworking space and coffee shop combination, where the coffee shop is an actual cafe run by a separate entity? The cafe would be in the front showroom area of the old auto dealership building I have in mind, with coworking in the warehouse/office part in the back; there would be some separation of the spaces, but I’d like to at least have a clear view into some the coworking space from the cafe. I have someone who might be interested, and it would certainly pull in potential coworkers. With the exception of Starbucks, most cafes in Pasadena are discontinuing their wifi, so I don’t think anyone would be especially outraged if that wasn’t offered in the cafe part. What may irritate coworkers is paying for coffee! Anyone have a business model for this they could share? Or is this a bad combo, and why?

You all might get a kick out of this segement a few weeks ago on our local radio station about Coffee Shop Squatters: http://www.scpr.org/programs/airtalk/2013/09/10/33648/coffeehouses-fight-back-against-wi-fi-squatters/ I was driving and so I couldn’t call in and plug coworking as the solution!

Many thanks!

Loren


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twb
member, Workantile
@twbrandt

Slightly different, but it might be worth reaching out to the people at WorkshopCafe (in SF). It similar, and they might have good feedback.

Personally, I love the idea. I know people that listen to coffee shop white noise, instead of music, while working, even when they are not in a coffee shop. However, like Tom mentioned, I can understand how if your customers not expecting that level of sound/noise in a coworking space it could be an issue.

Good luck, hope it works out!

Michelle

@mtdarby

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On Sunday, October 13, 2013 8:13:12 AM UTC-7, Tom Brandt - Workantile wrote:

Workantile had a coffee shop in the front of our space for a while when we first opened, but it did not work.

Even though the coffee shop was separated from the coworking area by a couple of walls, noise from the bean grinders, espresso machine, and chatter from the coffee shop customers spilled over into the coworking area. There was a constant stream of coffee shop customers traipsing through the coworking area to use the bathrooms. It was all incredibly distracting. Pretty much everything people hated about working in coffee shops was there in the coworking area.

The shop eventually moved out into a larger space, and we claimed their former space for our own. This worked out for everyone - the shop got more space, we got more space, and the distractions that the coffee shop imposed on us were gone. We now provide Zingerman’s coffee in our kitchen for members. There are several coffee shops within a couple blocks of Workantile that members use as well.

It sounds like a good idea, but unless you carefully work out noise isolation, bathroom access, foot traffic flow, and so forth, there will be problems.

On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 2:41 AM, Fay Easton [email protected] wrote:

Hi - always felt this might work but not yet tried it at our hubs - seems to have taken off brilliantly here:

www.centralworking.com at the BLOOMSBURY unit.

Footfall is mega in that area so am sure that contributes to the success and the ‘front seating’ at stools/bars is not designed for laptop width! Member area / fab co working space that you can see on the pics on the site is accessed through turnstile

Interesting article & comments on the Coffee Shop Squatters thanks for sharing that - agree with consensus that one hour code would protect the business owners’ investment & onward trade.

New style’ units may well spring up based on market demand - Working Cafes where the coffee may be dearer but the service is costed in.

Best,

Fay

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of LA Tripp
Sent: 13 October 2013 07:25
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Coworking] Coffee Shop/Coworking Combination Business Model

Hi All!

I have been searching for this in the past threads but haven’t found this exactly. I was wondering if anyone has a Coworking space and coffee shop combination, where the coffee shop is an actual cafe run by a separate entity? The cafe would be in the front showroom area of the old auto dealership building I have in mind, with coworking in the warehouse/office part in the back; there would be some separation of the spaces, but I’d like to at least have a clear view into some the coworking space from the cafe. I have someone who might be interested, and it would certainly pull in potential coworkers. With the exception of Starbucks, most cafes in Pasadena are discontinuing their wifi, so I don’t think anyone would be especially outraged if that wasn’t offered in the cafe part. What may irritate coworkers is paying for coffee! Anyone have a business model for this they could share? Or is this a bad combo, and why?

You all might get a kick out of this segement a few weeks ago on our local radio station about Coffee Shop Squatters: http://www.scpr.org/programs/airtalk/2013/09/10/33648/coffeehouses-fight-back-against-wi-fi-squatters/ I was driving and so I couldn’t call in and plug coworking as the solution!

Many thanks!

Loren


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twb
member, Workantile
@twbrandt

This is really helpful, thank you!

I was wondering about the noise and interruptions. I can see that a very separate space would be necessary, and then what’s the point of having an “attached” coffee shop at all? Jerome mentioned spaces that combine coworking and food service: Betahaus in Berlin, Hudson Business Lounge in Milwaukee and The Desk in Denver. They look like the cafe is quite separate, though its hard to tell from the pictures. The Desk seems to have the Cafe as their central business, with the coworking on an hourly basis. I looked at CentralWorking’s site and can’t get a clear idea of their floor plan to see how it works for them, though it’s a beautiful place.

I did notice that some of the cafe/coworking places still offer free drip coffee to coworkers. The cafe owner I talked to actually first offered to supply my space with coffee service- this may be the most practical way to go after all. I’ll have a kitchen no matter what. I know we can have food and alcohol at events with a permit- that may be better than complicating matters with a restaurant. Tom, if I do partner with a cafe, I’ll keep your observations in the front of my mind when it comes to designing the space.

This has been very valuable! Thank you!

~Loren

···

On Sunday, October 13, 2013 8:13:12 AM UTC-7, Tom Brandt - Workantile wrote:

Workantile had a coffee shop in the front of our space for a while when we first opened, but it did not work.

Even though the coffee shop was separated from the coworking area by a couple of walls, noise from the bean grinders, espresso machine, and chatter from the coffee shop customers spilled over into the coworking area. There was a constant stream of coffee shop customers traipsing through the coworking area to use the bathrooms. It was all incredibly distracting. Pretty much everything people hated about working in coffee shops was there in the coworking area.

The shop eventually moved out into a larger space, and we claimed their former space for our own. This worked out for everyone - the shop got more space, we got more space, and the distractions that the coffee shop imposed on us were gone. We now provide Zingerman’s coffee in our kitchen for members. There are several coffee shops within a couple blocks of Workantile that members use as well.

It sounds like a good idea, but unless you carefully work out noise isolation, bathroom access, foot traffic flow, and so forth, there will be problems.

On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 2:41 AM, Fay Easton [email protected] wrote:

Hi - always felt this might work but not yet tried it at our hubs - seems to have taken off brilliantly here:

www.centralworking.com at the BLOOMSBURY unit.

Footfall is mega in that area so am sure that contributes to the success and the ‘front seating’ at stools/bars is not designed for laptop width! Member area / fab co working space that you can see on the pics on the site is accessed through turnstile

Interesting article & comments on the Coffee Shop Squatters thanks for sharing that - agree with consensus that one hour code would protect the business owners’ investment & onward trade.

New style’ units may well spring up based on market demand - Working Cafes where the coffee may be dearer but the service is costed in.

Best,

Fay

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of LA Tripp
Sent: 13 October 2013 07:25
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Coworking] Coffee Shop/Coworking Combination Business Model

Hi All!

I have been searching for this in the past threads but haven’t found this exactly. I was wondering if anyone has a Coworking space and coffee shop combination, where the coffee shop is an actual cafe run by a separate entity? The cafe would be in the front showroom area of the old auto dealership building I have in mind, with coworking in the warehouse/office part in the back; there would be some separation of the spaces, but I’d like to at least have a clear view into some the coworking space from the cafe. I have someone who might be interested, and it would certainly pull in potential coworkers. With the exception of Starbucks, most cafes in Pasadena are discontinuing their wifi, so I don’t think anyone would be especially outraged if that wasn’t offered in the cafe part. What may irritate coworkers is paying for coffee! Anyone have a business model for this they could share? Or is this a bad combo, and why?

You all might get a kick out of this segement a few weeks ago on our local radio station about Coffee Shop Squatters: http://www.scpr.org/programs/airtalk/2013/09/10/33648/coffeehouses-fight-back-against-wi-fi-squatters/ I was driving and so I couldn’t call in and plug coworking as the solution!

Many thanks!

Loren


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twb
member, Workantile
@twbrandt

NextDoor Chicago does this pretty well (but it’s more of an event/community space than coworking space, per se). https://www.nextdoorchi.com

And thank you for the article! I also read this article the other day about giving coffee shops back to the community, which I thought made awesome, similar points: http://www.boston.com/business/innovation/blogs/inside-the-hive/2013/10/07/coworker-not-coffeeshopper/C2adUKikZKLsLO9vTk7gVO/blog.html

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On Sunday, October 13, 2013 7:47:53 PM UTC-5, LA Tripp wrote:

This is really helpful, thank you!

I was wondering about the noise and interruptions. I can see that a very separate space would be necessary, and then what’s the point of having an “attached” coffee shop at all? Jerome mentioned spaces that combine coworking and food service: Betahaus in Berlin, Hudson Business Lounge in Milwaukee and The Desk in Denver. They look like the cafe is quite separate, though its hard to tell from the pictures. The Desk seems to have the Cafe as their central business, with the coworking on an hourly basis. I looked at CentralWorking’s site and can’t get a clear idea of their floor plan to see how it works for them, though it’s a beautiful place.

I did notice that some of the cafe/coworking places still offer free drip coffee to coworkers. The cafe owner I talked to actually first offered to supply my space with coffee service- this may be the most practical way to go after all. I’ll have a kitchen no matter what. I know we can have food and alcohol at events with a permit- that may be better than complicating matters with a restaurant. Tom, if I do partner with a cafe, I’ll keep your observations in the front of my mind when it comes to designing the space.

This has been very valuable! Thank you!

~Loren

On Sunday, October 13, 2013 8:13:12 AM UTC-7, Tom Brandt - Workantile wrote:

Workantile had a coffee shop in the front of our space for a while when we first opened, but it did not work.

Even though the coffee shop was separated from the coworking area by a couple of walls, noise from the bean grinders, espresso machine, and chatter from the coffee shop customers spilled over into the coworking area. There was a constant stream of coffee shop customers traipsing through the coworking area to use the bathrooms. It was all incredibly distracting. Pretty much everything people hated about working in coffee shops was there in the coworking area.

The shop eventually moved out into a larger space, and we claimed their former space for our own. This worked out for everyone - the shop got more space, we got more space, and the distractions that the coffee shop imposed on us were gone. We now provide Zingerman’s coffee in our kitchen for members. There are several coffee shops within a couple blocks of Workantile that members use as well.

It sounds like a good idea, but unless you carefully work out noise isolation, bathroom access, foot traffic flow, and so forth, there will be problems.

On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 2:41 AM, Fay Easton [email protected] wrote:

Hi - always felt this might work but not yet tried it at our hubs - seems to have taken off brilliantly here:

www.centralworking.com at the BLOOMSBURY unit.

Footfall is mega in that area so am sure that contributes to the success and the ‘front seating’ at stools/bars is not designed for laptop width! Member area / fab co working space that you can see on the pics on the site is accessed through turnstile

Interesting article & comments on the Coffee Shop Squatters thanks for sharing that - agree with consensus that one hour code would protect the business owners’ investment & onward trade.

New style’ units may well spring up based on market demand - Working Cafes where the coffee may be dearer but the service is costed in.

Best,

Fay

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of LA Tripp
Sent: 13 October 2013 07:25
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Coworking] Coffee Shop/Coworking Combination Business Model

Hi All!

I have been searching for this in the past threads but haven’t found this exactly. I was wondering if anyone has a Coworking space and coffee shop combination, where the coffee shop is an actual cafe run by a separate entity? The cafe would be in the front showroom area of the old auto dealership building I have in mind, with coworking in the warehouse/office part in the back; there would be some separation of the spaces, but I’d like to at least have a clear view into some the coworking space from the cafe. I have someone who might be interested, and it would certainly pull in potential coworkers. With the exception of Starbucks, most cafes in Pasadena are discontinuing their wifi, so I don’t think anyone would be especially outraged if that wasn’t offered in the cafe part. What may irritate coworkers is paying for coffee! Anyone have a business model for this they could share? Or is this a bad combo, and why?

You all might get a kick out of this segement a few weeks ago on our local radio station about Coffee Shop Squatters: http://www.scpr.org/programs/airtalk/2013/09/10/33648/coffeehouses-fight-back-against-wi-fi-squatters/ I was driving and so I couldn’t call in and plug coworking as the solution!

Many thanks!

Loren


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twb
member, Workantile
@twbrandt

I actually visited Hudson in Milwaukee this morning. It’s in an excellent location and it’s beautiful. Right in Milwaukee’s 3rd ward which has seen a major renaissance in the last 5 years. They actually call their coworking space a business lounge and I’d say it has more of a formal feeling than many coworking spaces but it is very attractive, modern, comfortable, friendly. Not business center-y at all. You walk in to a shared entrance for the cafe/bar and the coworking space but you immediately select one or the other. The coworking space opens up with a long table of “benched” seating and I didn’t notice any coffee shop sounds at all. They share a wall but the entrances are essentially separate. The HVAC fan was on (gorgeous exposed duct work) so it was great white noise which might have drowned out some of the coffee shop sounds if there were any. The coffee shop itself is really comfortable with high end lounge chairs. There were people working in the cafe and a large group having a meeting in a large lounge space. I have no idea how their bar does at night but I think they have a well-executed design for running three businesses under one roof. They do not supply free coffee to the coworking members but they get 10% off of their purchases in the cafe. If you own the building, this type of model might make good sense. Trying to operate them both in the same space without real separation, per the posts below, sounds like a suboptimal approach.

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On Monday, October 14, 2013 11:51:53 AM UTC-5, Matthew Straub wrote:

NextDoor Chicago does this pretty well (but it’s more of an event/community space than coworking space, per se). https://www.nextdoorchi.com

And thank you for the article! I also read this article the other day about giving coffee shops back to the community, which I thought made awesome, similar points: http://www.boston.com/business/innovation/blogs/inside-the-hive/2013/10/07/coworker-not-coffeeshopper/C2adUKikZKLsLO9vTk7gVO/blog.html

On Sunday, October 13, 2013 7:47:53 PM UTC-5, LA Tripp wrote:

This is really helpful, thank you!

I was wondering about the noise and interruptions. I can see that a very separate space would be necessary, and then what’s the point of having an “attached” coffee shop at all? Jerome mentioned spaces that combine coworking and food service: Betahaus in Berlin, Hudson Business Lounge in Milwaukee and The Desk in Denver. They look like the cafe is quite separate, though its hard to tell from the pictures. The Desk seems to have the Cafe as their central business, with the coworking on an hourly basis. I looked at CentralWorking’s site and can’t get a clear idea of their floor plan to see how it works for them, though it’s a beautiful place.

I did notice that some of the cafe/coworking places still offer free drip coffee to coworkers. The cafe owner I talked to actually first offered to supply my space with coffee service- this may be the most practical way to go after all. I’ll have a kitchen no matter what. I know we can have food and alcohol at events with a permit- that may be better than complicating matters with a restaurant. Tom, if I do partner with a cafe, I’ll keep your observations in the front of my mind when it comes to designing the space.

This has been very valuable! Thank you!

~Loren

On Sunday, October 13, 2013 8:13:12 AM UTC-7, Tom Brandt - Workantile wrote:

Workantile had a coffee shop in the front of our space for a while when we first opened, but it did not work.

Even though the coffee shop was separated from the coworking area by a couple of walls, noise from the bean grinders, espresso machine, and chatter from the coffee shop customers spilled over into the coworking area. There was a constant stream of coffee shop customers traipsing through the coworking area to use the bathrooms. It was all incredibly distracting. Pretty much everything people hated about working in coffee shops was there in the coworking area.

The shop eventually moved out into a larger space, and we claimed their former space for our own. This worked out for everyone - the shop got more space, we got more space, and the distractions that the coffee shop imposed on us were gone. We now provide Zingerman’s coffee in our kitchen for members. There are several coffee shops within a couple blocks of Workantile that members use as well.

It sounds like a good idea, but unless you carefully work out noise isolation, bathroom access, foot traffic flow, and so forth, there will be problems.

On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 2:41 AM, Fay Easton [email protected] wrote:

Hi - always felt this might work but not yet tried it at our hubs - seems to have taken off brilliantly here:

www.centralworking.com at the BLOOMSBURY unit.

Footfall is mega in that area so am sure that contributes to the success and the ‘front seating’ at stools/bars is not designed for laptop width! Member area / fab co working space that you can see on the pics on the site is accessed through turnstile

Interesting article & comments on the Coffee Shop Squatters thanks for sharing that - agree with consensus that one hour code would protect the business owners’ investment & onward trade.

New style’ units may well spring up based on market demand - Working Cafes where the coffee may be dearer but the service is costed in.

Best,

Fay

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of LA Tripp
Sent: 13 October 2013 07:25
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Coworking] Coffee Shop/Coworking Combination Business Model

Hi All!

I have been searching for this in the past threads but haven’t found this exactly. I was wondering if anyone has a Coworking space and coffee shop combination, where the coffee shop is an actual cafe run by a separate entity? The cafe would be in the front showroom area of the old auto dealership building I have in mind, with coworking in the warehouse/office part in the back; there would be some separation of the spaces, but I’d like to at least have a clear view into some the coworking space from the cafe. I have someone who might be interested, and it would certainly pull in potential coworkers. With the exception of Starbucks, most cafes in Pasadena are discontinuing their wifi, so I don’t think anyone would be especially outraged if that wasn’t offered in the cafe part. What may irritate coworkers is paying for coffee! Anyone have a business model for this they could share? Or is this a bad combo, and why?

You all might get a kick out of this segement a few weeks ago on our local radio station about Coffee Shop Squatters: http://www.scpr.org/programs/airtalk/2013/09/10/33648/coffeehouses-fight-back-against-wi-fi-squatters/ I was driving and so I couldn’t call in and plug coworking as the solution!

Many thanks!

Loren


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twb
member, Workantile
@twbrandt

Hi Loren

Starbucks is one of our anchor tenants.

They have an independent unit within The Foundery Buildings in Toronto.

The noise is controlled, although I must admit the entire building smells like freshly brewed coffee - but it’s not really a problem for anyone :slight_smile:

Some Foundery members buy Starbucks coffee, some brew their own coffee, and we also provide coffee free of charge to our members - not everyone is a fan of Starbucks and we absolutely do not require our members to support them.

The Starbucks brings new people to our building every day, and I visit the Starbucks regularly to chat with anyone who might happen to be working on a laptop, and who might happen to be looking for an alternative to the coffee shop…

It helps us educate the general community about coworking, and removes the responsibility of us running a cafe ourselves.

We worked together to make the building accessible.

They are also great neighbours and solid tenants.

Foundery and the Creative Blueprint Gallery definitely both benefit from the coffee shop clients and customers - it’s just another way we can reach out to our community at large.

Ashley

Foundery
ash…@foundery.is
www.foundery.is

The Foundery Buildings
376 Bathurst Street
Toronto, ON
M5T 2S6

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On Oct 13, 2013, at 2:25 AM, LA Tripp wrote:

Hi All!

I have been searching for this in the past threads but haven’t found this exactly. I was wondering if anyone has a Coworking space and coffee shop combination, where the coffee shop is an actual cafe run by a separate entity? The cafe would be in the front showroom area of the old auto dealership building I have in mind, with coworking in the warehouse/office part in the back; there would be some separation of the spaces, but I’d like to at least have a clear view into some the coworking space from the cafe. I have someone who might be interested, and it would certainly pull in potential coworkers. With the exception of Starbucks, most cafes in Pasadena are discontinuing their wifi, so I don’t think anyone would be especially outraged if that wasn’t offered in the cafe part. What may irritate coworkers is paying for coffee! Anyone have a business model for this they could share? Or is this a bad combo, and why?

You all might get a kick out of this segement a few weeks ago on our local radio station about Coffee Shop Squatters: http://www.scpr.org/programs/airtalk/2013/09/10/33648/coffeehouses-fight-back-against-wi-fi-squatters/ I was driving and so I couldn’t call in and plug coworking as the solution!

Many thanks!

Loren

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Hey Loren,

I just posted something about a cafe yesterday or so in the post “Food Vendor Set-Up Help, Detroit.” We wont have a coffee shop per se, but we will have a cafe/cafeteria located on the same floor and basically same space as the co-working space. We are not open yet, and I don’t know how busy the cafe/cafeteria will get but it will be a really interesting combo. Also we do plan to have coffee makers and there is talk of putting coffee grinders for co-workers to bring in the coffee of their choice. We may also try to supply fresh coffee beans from some of the local coffee places in Detroit.

Isaac–Junction440

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On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 10:08:44 AM UTC-4, ashley wrote:

Hi Loren

Starbucks is one of our anchor tenants.

They have an independent unit within The Foundery Buildings in Toronto.

The noise is controlled, although I must admit the entire building smells like freshly brewed coffee - but it’s not really a problem for anyone :slight_smile:

Some Foundery members buy Starbucks coffee, some brew their own coffee, and we also provide coffee free of charge to our members - not everyone is a fan of Starbucks and we absolutely do not require our members to support them.

The Starbucks brings new people to our building every day, and I visit the Starbucks regularly to chat with anyone who might happen to be working on a laptop, and who might happen to be looking for an alternative to the coffee shop…

It helps us educate the general community about coworking, and removes the responsibility of us running a cafe ourselves.

We worked together to make the building accessible.

They are also great neighbours and solid tenants.

Foundery and the Creative Blueprint Gallery definitely both benefit from the coffee shop clients and customers - it’s just another way we can reach out to our community at large.

Ashley

Foundery
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www.foundery.is

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376 Bathurst Street
Toronto, ON
M5T 2S6

On Oct 13, 2013, at 2:25 AM, LA Tripp wrote:

Hi All!

I have been searching for this in the past threads but haven’t found this exactly. I was wondering if anyone has a Coworking space and coffee shop combination, where the coffee shop is an actual cafe run by a separate entity? The cafe would be in the front showroom area of the old auto dealership building I have in mind, with coworking in the warehouse/office part in the back; there would be some separation of the spaces, but I’d like to at least have a clear view into some the coworking space from the cafe. I have someone who might be interested, and it would certainly pull in potential coworkers. With the exception of Starbucks, most cafes in Pasadena are discontinuing their wifi, so I don’t think anyone would be especially outraged if that wasn’t offered in the cafe part. What may irritate coworkers is paying for coffee! Anyone have a business model for this they could share? Or is this a bad combo, and why?

You all might get a kick out of this segement a few weeks ago on our local radio station about Coffee Shop Squatters: http://www.scpr.org/programs/airtalk/2013/09/10/33648/coffeehouses-fight-back-against-wi-fi-squatters/ I was driving and so I couldn’t call in and plug coworking as the solution!

Many thanks!

Loren

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We also have been looking at this type of model, though we have encountered some difficulty with the space availability in the areas we have looked at. One of the locations would allow a coffee shop but would not allow any kind of shared work space, even if attached to a coffee shop. Which comes down to how we sell the space to the developer. The other space we looked at was fine with the coworking space, but wouldn’t allow a coffee kiosk. Where we are looking has limited options, but the combining of the two was supported by the founder of one of the Boulder spaces when I spoke to him. His space, Fuse at Riverside is going to have a coffee shop and a wine bar in the same building as the coworking space. Should be a cool combo. Requires capital though. That is the other thing we ran into.

Still working it though.

Rob C.

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On Sunday, October 13, 2013 12:25:23 AM UTC-6, LA Tripp wrote:

Hi All!

I have been searching for this in the past threads but haven’t found this exactly. I was wondering if anyone has a Coworking space and coffee shop combination, where the coffee shop is an actual cafe run by a separate entity? The cafe would be in the front showroom area of the old auto dealership building I have in mind, with coworking in the warehouse/office part in the back; there would be some separation of the spaces, but I’d like to at least have a clear view into some the coworking space from the cafe. I have someone who might be interested, and it would certainly pull in potential coworkers. With the exception of Starbucks, most cafes in Pasadena are discontinuing their wifi, so I don’t think anyone would be especially outraged if that wasn’t offered in the cafe part. What may irritate coworkers is paying for coffee! Anyone have a business model for this they could share? Or is this a bad combo, and why?

You all might get a kick out of this segement a few weeks ago on our local radio station about Coffee Shop Squatters: http://www.scpr.org/programs/airtalk/2013/09/10/33648/coffeehouses-fight-back-against-wi-fi-squatters/ I was driving and so I couldn’t call in and plug coworking as the solution!

Many thanks!

Loren

Hi there,

I don’t know if you have heard about the “Anticafé” in Paris? It’s a café/coworking Space where you pay depending on the time you spend in the space.

Cheers!

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El domingo, 13 de octubre de 2013 08:25:23 UTC+2, LA Tripp escribió:

Hi All!

I have been searching for this in the past threads but haven’t found this exactly. I was wondering if anyone has a Coworking space and coffee shop combination, where the coffee shop is an actual cafe run by a separate entity? The cafe would be in the front showroom area of the old auto dealership building I have in mind, with coworking in the warehouse/office part in the back; there would be some separation of the spaces, but I’d like to at least have a clear view into some the coworking space from the cafe. I have someone who might be interested, and it would certainly pull in potential coworkers. With the exception of Starbucks, most cafes in Pasadena are discontinuing their wifi, so I don’t think anyone would be especially outraged if that wasn’t offered in the cafe part. What may irritate coworkers is paying for coffee! Anyone have a business model for this they could share? Or is this a bad combo, and why?

You all might get a kick out of this segement a few weeks ago on our local radio station about Coffee Shop Squatters: http://www.scpr.org/programs/airtalk/2013/09/10/33648/coffeehouses-fight-back-against-wi-fi-squatters/ I was driving and so I couldn’t call in and plug coworking as the solution!

Many thanks!

Loren

Interesting discussion. Been pondering how to change it up to drive more traffic to our open seating area and how to engage those that sit working at the Satbucks 4 miles down the road without just handing them Free Day Passes when I go in there myself for a cappuccino.

We have free coffee for our Members. Keurig pod 2.0 with lots of pod options...

Wondering about the minimal way to sell coffee to non-members. Maybe a coffee purchase would give them the ability to work from a desk for 1 hour. If they buy another coffee they get a second hour, etc? And if they join as a Member then the coffee is free?

Not sure Keurig pod coffee is viewed as good enough quality to pay $2.00 or more for though.

Not looking to run a restaurant and have a restaurant license etc. So the extensive variety of drinks a barista could make isn't feasible. But maybe there's a way to partner with the local independent coffee shop that many rave about (other than Starbucks)? They are over 10 miles away so it wouldn't cut into their typical customers. Starbucks is 4 miles away.

We have dedicated offices and cubicles which are nearly full, but the cafe side, that can seat up to 17 is pretty quiet some days. Varies randomly from 2-7 of us at a time, so it would be great to find a creative way to engage the many people that are already "coworking" down the street at the local Starbucks.

That location is about to get even busier than it is now too - an urgent care 3 story hospital is opening within walking distance of it this Fall! Thinking of chatting with the manager to see if they'd prefer people not squat there for hours and see if there's a win-win opportunity to get those people to buy product there and then come 4 miles to our place to work instead of occupying their limited seating. It's a smaller dining room and the patio is way too hot in the summer to sit at for hours. Wonder what that partnership model might look like?

To understand a business model the canvas by Ostewalder is a great tool. Here's the one I made for coworking http://coworkinghandbook.com/coworking-business-model-canvas/