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Alex,
Great article!!!

I have a question for the “group”. I have a nonprofit group called Adventure Scientists for Conversation using our one available office. We charge $250 a month for 140 sq. ft. He’s now grown to 8 people and has asked to expand into our small conference room, which is 325 sq. ft. We still have a larger conference room that can be used for small or large groups. Right now, their expanding group uses the small one too when not rented.

I had one commercial realtor tell me to charge $14/sq. ft. plus triple net of $3. Then a another realtor I have been working with in exploring downtown space said my formula was all wrong. He came over and wrote out the following:

Whole building sq. ft. = 5,250

Blue Ocean Innovation Center - 2500

Common Area in Blue Ocean - 1440 - large open work area and kitchen and couch area

Common Area in Entry Way and two bathrooms and access to outdoor area - approximately 510 sq. ft (shared by dental office in the other half

We own the building and pay $8,000/year as a member of a two building association for landscaping, parking, snow removal, trash/recycling.

We also pay $8500 in annual taxes for our building alone.

Coworkers get “free” printing and free color to a certain #, free coffee & tea…

The math formula provided by the last realtor said to figure out their percentage of entire Blue Ocean space, the # of sq ft of Common Area Space (CA), the triple net costs and come in with more square footage by percentage of their space and CA usage, charget $12 per square ft and $3 triple net…

Does anyone have a better formula or comments on the above. I could let them us the conference room as they are and still charge more because they have grown from 2-8 employees and not give it to them at all…it has to make economic sense. Thank you! Becky, Founder

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On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 2:08 AM, [email protected] wrote:

Today’s topic summary

Group: http://groups.google.com/group/coworking/topics

  • Who’s tracking their membership churn? [4 Updates]
  • Airbnb now offer hourly desk space booking! [6 Updates]
  • Academic Coworking [2 Updates]
  • How did you find your coworking space? [1 Update]
  • How to approach a new market with the coworking concept? [1 Update]
    Who’s tracking their membership churn?

Alex Hillman [email protected] Apr 01 05:27PM -0400

  As the business aphorism goes, it's a lot easier to keep an existing

customer than it is to get a new one.

I know there are a variety of systems out there that people are using, I’m
…more
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Jacob Sayles [email protected] Apr 01 02:43PM -0700

  Fun stuff! Yes, we track this stuff in Nadine and have some staff facing

stats pages that show us some basic data. I’d love to dive deeper and I’m

always trying to recruit data nerds that want to
…more
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Glen Ferguson [email protected] Apr 01 06:03PM -0400

  I recently started calculating average monthly recurring revenue, average

member lifetime, average lifetime of past members, member lifetime value, %

renewal rates (which is the opposite of churn,
…more
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rachel young [email protected] Apr 01 07:14PM -0400

  We've tracked member usage since almost day 1, which was 4yrs ago, so we

can see how long a member has been here, when their anniversary date is,

and what their usage patterns are.
…more
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Airbnb now offer hourly desk space booking!

[email protected] Apr 01 08:50AM

  [airbrb.com](http://airbrb.com) really?

-----Original Message-----

From: Victoria Arnold [email protected]

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Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 01:03:20

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“Eric Y.F Lim” [email protected] Apr 01 04:59PM +0800

  Very good idea! I tried to register my spare table ..... then I realized

today is 1st April :smiley:

  [...more](http://groups.google.com/group/coworking/msg/3ff47d88edda5500)

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Victoria Arnold [email protected] Apr 01 02:16AM -0700

  haha yes! so did I... renting your desk while you're at the bathroom...

talk about resource utilisation

On Tuesday, 1 April 2014 09:59:27 UTC+1, Eric Y.F Lim wrote:

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[email protected] Apr 01 09:18AM

  :)

-----Original Message-----

From: Victoria Arnold [email protected]

Sender: [email protected]

Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 02:16:41

To: [email protected]

  [...more](http://groups.google.com/group/coworking/msg/192caa85d8572bff)

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“Christian M. Macy” [email protected] Apr 01 02:19PM -0700

  But seriously has anyone found a good way to tie in with AirBnB so that

when someone is visiting they know where they can go to work other than the

living room or a coffee shop?

  [...more](http://groups.google.com/group/coworking/msg/866ad1c5fa71f75c)

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Rena Tom [email protected] Apr 01 02:34PM -0700

  I talked to them well a year ago about something like this. They were

starting a neighborhood ambassador program where people would be directed

to the local coffee shop where they could learn the
…more
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Academic Coworking

“Piotr Boulangé” [email protected] Apr 01 10:06AM -0700

  This is very good paper for starters! and also the coworking space looks

great. Nice website BTW

Thank you for sahring. If I should have any question, I’ll get back to you.

PB

  [...more](http://groups.google.com/group/coworking/msg/90a8dd744022919)

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Soleil Onoya [email protected] Apr 01 10:50AM -0700

  Hi Tamara,

Thanks for sharing that link. It’s quite informative and I really enjoyed

reading it.

Cheers,

Soleil

On Monday, March 31, 2014 8:02:19 AM UTC-7, Tamara Acosta wrote:

  [...more](http://groups.google.com/group/coworking/msg/24a5bce1e01a22f0)

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How did you find your coworking space?

Barbara Sprenger [email protected] Apr 01 10:30AM -0700

  Hi Karina,

Where are you looking? We have a couple of amazing brokers. With both, we

were satisfied with the deal, and they went even further – getting us an

even better deal! LoopNet is the
…more
Back to top

How to approach a new market with the coworking concept?

Daniel Rivera [email protected] Apr 01 07:20AM -0700

  Alex Hillman has a great article on focusing on your first 10.

http://dangerouslyawesome.com/2011/09/how-to-fund-your-coworking-space/

I’m from South TX too, what is the name of your space? Can
…more
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406-551-1262

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My rule of thumb: 3 or 4 x rent.

If your market rent is $14 + $3 NNN, then $4.26/SF (= 3 x (14+3)/12).

Your 140sf office seems too cheap. Could be $600/mo.

Your 325sf conference room could be $1385/mo!

Jerome

www.BLANKSPACES.com

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On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 2:08 AM, [email protected] wrote:

Today’s topic summary

Group: http://groups.google.com/group/coworking/topics

  • Who’s tracking their membership churn? [4 Updates]
  • Airbnb now offer hourly desk space booking! [6 Updates]
  • Academic Coworking [2 Updates]
  • How did you find your coworking space? [1 Update]
  • How to approach a new market with the coworking concept? [1 Update]
    Who’s tracking their membership churn?

Alex Hillman [email protected] Apr 01 05:27PM -0400

  As the business aphorism goes, it's a lot easier to keep an existing

customer than it is to get a new one.

I know there are a variety of systems out there that people are using, I’m
…more
Back to top

Jacob Sayles [email protected] Apr 01 02:43PM -0700

  Fun stuff! Yes, we track this stuff in Nadine and have some staff facing

stats pages that show us some basic data. I’d love to dive deeper and I’m

always trying to recruit data nerds that want to
…more
Back to top

Glen Ferguson [email protected] Apr 01 06:03PM -0400

  I recently started calculating average monthly recurring revenue, average

member lifetime, average lifetime of past members, member lifetime value, %

renewal rates (which is the opposite of churn,
…more
Back to top

rachel young [email protected] Apr 01 07:14PM -0400

  We've tracked member usage since almost day 1, which was 4yrs ago, so we

can see how long a member has been here, when their anniversary date is,

and what their usage patterns are.
…more
Back to top

Airbnb now offer hourly desk space booking!

[email protected] Apr 01 08:50AM

  [airbrb.com](http://airbrb.com) really?

-----Original Message-----

From: Victoria Arnold [email protected]

Sender: [email protected]

Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 01:03:20

To: <[email protected] >
…more
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“Eric Y.F Lim” [email protected] Apr 01 04:59PM +0800

  Very good idea! I tried to register my spare table ..... then I realized

today is 1st April :smiley:

  [...more](http://groups.google.com/group/coworking/msg/3ff47d88edda5500)

Back to top

Victoria Arnold [email protected] Apr 01 02:16AM -0700

  haha yes! so did I... renting your desk while you're at the bathroom...

talk about resource utilisation

On Tuesday, 1 April 2014 09:59:27 UTC+1, Eric Y.F Lim wrote:

  [...more](http://groups.google.com/group/coworking/msg/568e3492ff270dbd)

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[email protected] Apr 01 09:18AM

  :)

-----Original Message-----

From: Victoria Arnold [email protected]

Sender: [email protected]

Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 02:16:41

To: [email protected]

  [...more](http://groups.google.com/group/coworking/msg/192caa85d8572bff)

Back to top

“Christian M. Macy” [email protected] Apr 01 02:19PM -0700

  But seriously has anyone found a good way to tie in with AirBnB so that

when someone is visiting they know where they can go to work other than the

living room or a coffee shop?

  [...more](http://groups.google.com/group/coworking/msg/866ad1c5fa71f75c)

Back to top

Rena Tom [email protected] Apr 01 02:34PM -0700

  I talked to them well a year ago about something like this. They were

starting a neighborhood ambassador program where people would be directed

to the local coffee shop where they could learn the
…more
Back to top

Academic Coworking

“Piotr Boulangé” [email protected] Apr 01 10:06AM -0700

  This is very good paper for starters! and also the coworking space looks

great. Nice website BTW

Thank you for sahring. If I should have any question, I’ll get back to you.

PB

  [...more](http://groups.google.com/group/coworking/msg/90a8dd744022919)

Back to top

Soleil Onoya [email protected] Apr 01 10:50AM -0700

  Hi Tamara,

Thanks for sharing that link. It’s quite informative and I really enjoyed

reading it.

Cheers,

Soleil

On Monday, March 31, 2014 8:02:19 AM UTC-7, Tamara Acosta wrote:

  [...more](http://groups.google.com/group/coworking/msg/24a5bce1e01a22f0)

Back to top

How did you find your coworking space?

Barbara Sprenger [email protected] Apr 01 10:30AM -0700

  Hi Karina,

Where are you looking? We have a couple of amazing brokers. With both, we

were satisfied with the deal, and they went even further – getting us an

even better deal! LoopNet is the
…more
Back to top

How to approach a new market with the coworking concept?

Daniel Rivera [email protected] Apr 01 07:20AM -0700

  Alex Hillman has a great article on focusing on your first 10.

http://dangerouslyawesome.com/2011/09/how-to-fund-your-coworking-space/

I’m from South TX too, what is the name of your space? Can
…more
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Bozeman, MT 59715

406-551-1262

406-579-2849

[email protected]
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